After watching that fight last night seeing Peterson move around almost like Lara style...is it impossible to cut the ring off when someone moves their feet THAT much? We see in ALL or Lara's fights and last night Lamont Peterson doing the sort of same thing.... What was the problem with Garcias footwork? He looked to mirror him and try to make the ring smaller but Peterson was out....
Garcia / Peterson problems
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Interesting fight - I always liked Peterson style. The guy is very well rounded ...
About your question - IMO, it is just a stylistic problem for Garcia. He is basically a counterpuncher and doesn't like to lead himself. Kind of like Marquez and some other guys.
In addition, IMO, he is not very mobile guy in terms of his footwork. I mean, just naturally a bit heavy like ,say, Alvarez.
So even before that fight happened I thought that he would have hard time with Peterson. Actually, I thought that he would lose.
About your question - IMO, it is just a stylistic problem for Garcia. He is basically a counterpuncher and doesn't like to lead himself. Kind of like Marquez and some other guys.
In addition, IMO, he is not very mobile guy in terms of his footwork. I mean, just naturally a bit heavy like ,say, Alvarez.
So even before that fight happened I thought that he would have hard time with Peterson. Actually, I thought that he would lose.
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Peterson also wasn't doing shit while he was moving around like that. The problem with that style is that you invariably give up rounds through sheer activity. It did frustrate Garcia and get him to swing and miss, but Peterson was rarely in a position to counter until he started walking Garcia down late in the fight.
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From what I saw the guy who "pretended to be winning" did win on the cards, but lost the fight. Either way, interesting take, elaborate? I watched it twice and i had Peterson up 2pts both times.
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I had Peterson winning but I don't know why he fights the way he does early he is much better when he comes forward moving a lot never won him fights and it didn't even help him defensively mattysse stopped him either way.
Also it is possible tocut the ring off even on someone like that Garcia just isn't great at cutting off the ring
Also it is possible tocut the ring off even on someone like that Garcia just isn't great at cutting off the ring
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Well, running around in circles and not landing punches doesn't win a guy rounds in my book. I think people were captivated by the times Peterson made Garcia miss by big margins, and completely ignored body shots (much like when Canelo fought Lara). Plus, the jolting punches were landed by Garcia, not Peterson. I also felt Garcia's defense was getting NO credit, he slipped and deflected a lot of the punches Peterson actually did throw, and only got hit cleanly when Peterson chose to engage. A couple of times in the later rounds I felt Peterson gave better than he got, but not a whole lot.
Still though, I didn't score a round for Peterson until the 8th. And even if he swept from then on (which I felt he lost the 9th), it's 7-5 Garcia. Again, I don't score a round for a guy because he makes the other guy miss AND misses almost everything he himself throws. If he'd have been landing any punches, I'd understand...but he wasn't, so I don't.
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Chavez Sr. wouldn't have had issues cutting the ring in that fight. So its quite possible, you just need to be better at it than Garcia.
I am not sure what the scoring was but IMO overall Garcia had hard time in this fight.
Couldn't cut Peterson off and get him to engage.
Though I do agree that he did good job defensively with head movement and landed some body jabs. But Peterson landed quite alot to the head.
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Peterson didn't have an EASY time in this fight. See that's what I mean. All anyone talks about is what was going wrong with Garcia. Not the fact that Peterson did fuck-all for 6 rounds and didn't even fight a LITTLE bit until the 7th. He had an easy time running track, that's about it.
And no, re-watch the fight. Garcia landed more than jabs to the body. His body-shots had Peterson so skittish he tripped over his own feet.
And no, re-watch the fight. Garcia landed more than jabs to the body. His body-shots had Peterson so skittish he tripped over his own feet.
Hmm ... My feeling was that Peterson did land punches in first 6 rounds as well - may be not too many power punches, but jabs were landing ,...
Anyway, don't you think that Garcia did bad job at cutting the ring off ? Especially, Peterson's movement to the left ... I mean, a guy like Golovkin (though I am not a big fan of his style) never allows for that crap to happen by stepping through and across to his right ...
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Most of them jabs were slipped. I didn't see a right hand thrown for about three rounds.
And I don't think Garcia did as horrible a job of cutting off the ring as people keep saying. It's incredibly difficult to fight a guy who is going to avoid engaging at all costs and has a large enough ring to do so. That was a 20 Ft ring.And to fair Golovki has yet to even fight a guy of Peterson's quality, with equal hand/foot speed. That said, yes Garcia had a hard time cutting off the ring, but I don't think he was neutered like some suggest.
And I don't think Garcia did as horrible a job of cutting off the ring as people keep saying. It's incredibly difficult to fight a guy who is going to avoid engaging at all costs and has a large enough ring to do so. That was a 20 Ft ring.And to fair Golovki has yet to even fight a guy of Peterson's quality, with equal hand/foot speed. That said, yes Garcia had a hard time cutting off the ring, but I don't think he was neutered like some suggest.
There are boxers that I can't imagine them looking like that even against a guy who tries to run. Say , Cotto - he fought very quality movers and always was able to force them to engage.
IMO, Garcia is just not very good at leading. Also naturally not that mobile as Cotto - technique or not, that thing IMO plays huge role ...
IMO, Garcia is just not very good at leading. Also naturally not that mobile as Cotto - technique or not, that thing IMO plays huge role ...
Yea Peterson was straight up running for the first half of the fight. It's hard to score it for him that way.
You wanna talk about a fighter not being able to cut off the ring/cage? Check out Manuwa vs Blachowicz from the (awful) UFC event last weekend. Literally just by circling left, Blachowicz made a very dangerous fighter unable to do shit but clinch.
You wanna talk about a fighter not being able to cut off the ring/cage? Check out Manuwa vs Blachowicz from the (awful) UFC event last weekend. Literally just by circling left, Blachowicz made a very dangerous fighter unable to do shit but clinch.
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