Media Gane: Aspinall would beat Jones because he's more well-rounded

[Captain Herb]

Was Jones offered a fight at HW with DC? I seem to remember DC skewering Stipe’s eyes out and then chasing a match with Lewis. Then the rest of the Stipe trilogy played out. At what point during all of that was DC calling out Jon to move up to HW?

He said he would "NEVER" fight DC at HW, is that not refusing? If not, my apologies.

 

[Pechan]

I'm rooting hard for Tommy but if we go by the numbers Jones have more chances to win than Tom.

 

[froggyluv]

"Gane would absolutely flatten Jones.!!' ~ 70% sherbros pre Gane/Jones

"Oh, well obviously Jones won... Gane cant grapple" ~same 70% post fight

 

[JBJ was here]

Of all the many reasons Aspinall could beat Jon Jones, being more well rounded than Jones is not one of them (or even close to being true), and the fact that Gane thinks that it is helps explain how he looked so thoroughly lost in the cage with Jones.

 

[KO Shotz]

Tom definitely isn't more well rounded than Jones, but he does have KO power & the wrestling to make things interesting & dangerous for Jon.

Too bad this fight is never gonna happen.

 

[Rio Ferdinand]

Tom's wrestling is dogshit.

Nobody in their right minds would think he is more all-rounded than Jones.

 

[Superzorro]

Not sure what point you're trying to make, the person I replied to said you would have to be retarded to think Jones would lose to DC at hw when Jones himself is on record saying he doubts he would win at hw. Also, check the record, Jones has 1 win against DC and a NC which should absolutely be considered a loss. If you get caught cheating with steroids in-competition, sorry you lost that fight automatically. As far as Jones being the A-hole, yeah, I agree.

Jones himself didn't say that. You said that. Jones himself said that it would make no sense to give that many advantages to someone who he's beaten twice. Tell me why it would make sense to accommodate that heavily toward Cormier in this situation.

Yeah but when we're talking about a debate between who would win in a technical analysis of their skills, we've seen one guy win a dominant decision and knock out the other guy. There's no way you could claim an older version of an older fighter who's been beaten up in both head to head meetings would win the third one.

Yeah, I think ultimately that's what this boils down to. You're allowing how Jones makes you feel emotionally outside of the cage cloud your assessment of what goes on inside of the cage. As a grown man, that's pathetic. Learn to control your emotions. You sound like a little ass girl. Boo hoo, he's an "asshole," get over it.

 

[Captain Herb]

Jones himself didn't say that. You said that. Jones himself said that it would make no sense to give that many advantages to someone who he's beaten twice. Tell me why it would make sense to accommodate that heavily toward Cormier in this situation.

Yeah but when we're talking about a debate between who would win in a technical analysis of their skills, we've seen one guy win a dominant decision and knock out the other guy. There's no way you could claim an older version of an older fighter who's been beaten up in both head to head meetings would win the third one.

Yeah, I think ultimately that's what this boils down to. You're allowing how Jones makes you feel emotionally outside of the cage cloud your assessment of what goes on inside of the cage. As a grown man, that's pathetic. Learn to control your emotions. You sound like a little ass girl. Boo hoo, he's an "asshole," get over it.

Lol, he was asked if he would ever fight DC at HW and he said NO. doesn't matter the reasons, he said NO. that sure sounds like a refusal to me but to some lower IQ people, maybe it doesn't.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

He said he would "NEVER" fight DC at HW, is that not refusing? If not, my apologies.

You dodged the question.

 

[Superzorro]

Lol, he was asked if he would ever fight DC at HW and he said NO. doesn't matter the reasons, he said NO. that sure sounds like a refusal to me but to some lower IQ people, maybe it doesn't.

He said he wouldn’t fight DC. He don’t say he was afraid of losing to DC. You have a serious problem when it comes to English comprehension. Where are you from?

 

[icemun]

Ok thx. Forgot all about that.

Serious question though; does anyone really think DC could have beat Jon at HW in 2018? DC could never beat Jon, regardless of weight. If you think so, you’re a fool. Even DC knows.

Part of the narrative to support Jon is "afraid" of every fighter he faces.

He was afraid to fight DC a 3rd time, after leaving him unconscious and crying in MSG



Third time with both fighters heavier would be a charm for DC though

 

[FriskyRandy]

Tom better BJJ than Jones???

You do know Tom's been subbed by a regional can right?

Lots of high level BJJ players have been submitted by lesser players. It doesn't make them not high level.

 

[markg171]

Lots of high level BJJ players have been submitted by lesser players. It doesn't make them not high level.

And yet Jon Jones hasn't been submitted even 1x in his career that goes back to Tom still being in middle school before he ever even competed, and lost, you can.

Jones > Tom in BJJ and it's beyond silly to suggest anything otherwise.

By all means, give Tom the physical advantages, like he deserves as the younger fighter, but you guys look like utter nut bags giving him skill advantages. Jon is an elite level top kickboxer and grappler. It's why he's still on top after 2 decades.

 

[White lightning 2]

I think an argument could be made that Tom's more well rounded than Jones. It's certainly close, which is why we all want to see the fight.

No. Just no. Jones should fight Aspinall and retire. I was waiting for an old Jones to lose to Gane but I was wrong. Jones will destroy Aspinall like all the others and should be done

 

[orca]

I personally think his striking and BJJ is better. Jones wrestling is better, but possibly not able to use it.

If Jones has all the advantages, why is he avoiding the fight?

ok its just a personal opinion with no proof again

 

[orca]

The one question that Jones fangirls can't answer. Up unti lthe Stipe fight it was "th-th-the contract is s-s-signed!"

What now?



Are we talking about a fight where neither of them are roided at HW?
Because clean vs clean, it's a much closer fight than you think. DC has such a resume gap vs Jon at HW that it isn't even funny. Strikeforce HW DC would have tossed Gane out of the cage. Remember, he knocked out Stipe back before he was 40% dust.

Unfortunately, since Jon and his brothers have been in all likelihood roiding since high school, we'll never know what a clean Jon actually looks like. Shame!

we are just asking wich elite mma wrestler tom outwrestled
wich elite bjj fighter he strangled
and wich elite striker he outstriked


pretty sure if you want to convince someone you should give proofs
right?
or is it wrong to ask proof?

 

[orca]

Aspinall has defended 2 takedowns in the first round from Spivac who was a short notice opponent for Aspinall and didn't have time for a training camp

pereira also defended takedowns
pretty sure you also believe hes in the same caliber as jones or DC?

also wich high class bjj fighter did aspinal strangled?
you also believe periera is a world class bjj fighter

 

[White lightning 2]

DC's career was 10x better at HW.

No

 

[White lightning 2]

Aspinall all day. People marginalizing Aspinall by calling him a bum, just another fighter, clearly are doing to protect Jones' image or are desperately trying to cope with Jones ducking him. Jones is smart. He knows Aspinall is a killer like he has never seen before.

This video is a reminder of who Aspinall is to everyone suffering from recency memory. This highlight reel says it all. No one who is 260+ lbs should ever move so fast while being explosive and powerful like that. He defies physics. Guy is a total killer while being a true gentleman outside. His child has Autism so he is a spokesperson for Autism in Britain trying to help other kids with Autism and raise awareness based on his experiences as a father of a 5 year old with Autism. I don't have to say much about Jones, in this respect.

Aspinall's one-punch knockout power, will trash Jones' lights in seconds.

Ya like we have seen Jones get his lights put out lol. I thought Gane was gonna do that and we saw what happened. No chance

 

[MMAFanCal]

Ya like we have seen Jones get his lights put out lol. I thought Gane was gonna do that and we saw what happened. No chance

You effectively read nothing what I wrote. Gane has nothing on Aspinall. Gane got destroyed by Volkov while Aspinall finished Volkov in the 1st round. Come out of denial and accept Jones has been ducking while taking advantage of his gullible fans. He said it himself it is too risky for him to put his legacy on the line.

Aspinall has eons more power than Gane and has been grappling since he was a child. Gane has no one-punch knockout power, cannot grapple to safe his life and not anywhere in the same league as far as speed, explosiveness, power etc. Everyone knows Gane is a highly technical and volume fighter. He has never knocked out anyone one punch. He always relies on extreme technical striking and distance management while throwing volume. The only reason why Jones took the fight with him, was because of two reasons. 1) there is a lot of tape on him and Jones studies a lot of tape on his opponent 2) he was already exposed by a Ngannou with no knees where he was taken down at will and could not grapple to save his life. Jones knew exactly how he could easily beat him.

You are coping hard. Aspinall will trash this clown's lights in the first round with that brutal one-punch knockout power.