FW Belt being protected by the boss...

[Paynebringer]

Unlike boxing the UFC is a "fight club" so rankings really don't mean anything. These is no sanctioning body to appease, by defending a title.
The decision to strip a title lies solely with the management at UFC, which is why it's not applied consistently across the promotion.
If they wanted to get the belt off a particular fighter, such as Jones, it happens quickly , or an interim belt gets created.

I was displaying a bit of sarcasm in that response post, but to your point boxing, mma,whatever your sport there most be some form of ranking and gauging just who is the best or everybody would be willy nilly all over the place. I understand random fights some turn out to be real fun like Superfights, but this is far from super if it were to happen again it would be for sh!ts & giggles .

 

[Shapky86]

I saw nate losing every minute of the fight untill he wobbled conor.And conor went into full panic mode.

If you dont think nate can lose the rematch your a moron.Conor could come out and use teeps to the knee and avoid every exchange and fight on the outside and shock everyone.

And no my dad never told me that.He told me the man who attacks first and the most viciosuly wins a fight 90 percent of the time

Then let me guess you fall in that 10% that's not vicious. Your an idiot dude.You realize Conor will have to come in Nates range to kick his knee right.He is going to get cracked all night long.Conors cardio lacking ass couldn't do that the whole fight man LMAO.Nate's gonna piece that dudes grill up.

 

[ZuffaExecutive]

Then let me guess you fall in that 10% that's not vicious. Your an idiot dude.You realize Conor will have to come in Nates range to kick his knee right.He is going to get cracked all night long.Conors cardio lacking ass couldn't do that the whole fight man LMAO.Nate's gonna piece that dudes grill up.

There is a difference between kicking range and boxing range.If you dont understand that your a moron.Also conor was pressuring the taller guy.Most striking coaches teach you never to do that.You go second.You let them close the range for you.

But as your a moron who has probably never sparred or taken any form of martial arts class ill accept that you dont understand these basic concepts.

Either way ill still be here supporting McG,while if nate loses you or fights someone else you probably won be supporting him,I sense your just one of them losers who takes pride in someone else faltering while they try to achieve something in life

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

 

[helltoupee]

I saw nate losing every minute of the fight untill he wobbled conor.And conor went into full panic mode.

If you dont think nate can lose the rematch your a moron.Conor could come out and use teeps to the knee and avoid every exchange and fight on the outside and shock everyone.

And no my dad never told me that.He told me the man who attacks first and the most viciosuly wins a fight 90 percent of the time

I'll agree with you that Conor does have a shot to win in the rematch, however, what I bolded above is not necessarily true - in a street fight maybe, but in professional competition you train for the fight as a marathon. You don't sprint the first 100 yards of a 5K marathon and expect to win the race just because you beat the competition for the first 100 yards and gassed out for the rest. Conor's fight IQ was horrible in the Diaz fight. He had his Rousey moment where he simply let his ego cloud his judgement of what was actually happening in the fight itself.

Bottom line is, you won't be a fighter very long if you throw everything you got the first couple minutes, hoping to overwhelm/connect. Level of competition is way too high at the elite levels. Pacing is absolutely critical.

 

[serr]

Conor has never been protected

Love him or hate him there are very few in the game who would accept the short notice matchups he has.Jones wouldnt of done it,Werdum wouldnt of.

Honestly im not a fan of the rematch at 170 its pointless.Or the rematch really.Can conor beat nate ,probably yes.But he sure as hell cant move up in weight and then headhunt people.If you move up ,you better have your movement in check and be evasive

Agreeing to fight an out of camp Mendes, who Conor has a significant reach and size advantage is not a big deal. Fighting Diaz got him killed and exposed.

 

[Paynebringer]

I hate to break this to you but they belts aren't actually solid gold...

The UFC Championship belt is worth approximately 333,000 depending on current gold prices and contains 12lbs of gold, look it up...

 

[TwoFace]

It is pointless in terms of ranking and integrity of a sport lol but not in maximum money. I too was wishing for Conor vs Frankie for 200 but this rematch does not surprise me at all. UFC wants Conor's money train to keep on rolling...Conor can beat Nate Diaz due to both fighters loving the striking game so much and it is a matter of who is going to buckle first...there is no guarantee that Conor is going to drop first the second time around.

The UFC is betting that Conor with a smarter more patient approach will defeat Nate Diaz because of how their first fight unfolded. Frankie Edgar is a sell for a later date if Ronda Rousey decided not to fight this year (or ever?).

Frankie on the hand is a far far scarier fight in that he is willing to adapt and change according to how his fight is going. Not Nate Diaz, you hurt Nate standing he will still come at you the same way he did fresh. That said, I still fear that Conor's strikes and reach will be too much for Frankie when they do fight and wonder if the first clean shot Conor hits him with will put Frankie down ala Dustin Proirer or Jose Aldo.

 

[Shapky86]

There is a difference between kicking range and boxing range.If you dont understand that your a moron.Also conor was pressuring the taller guy.Most striking coaches teach you never to do that.You go second.You let them close the range for you.

But as your a moron who has probably never sparred or taken any form of martial arts class ill accept that you dont understand these basic concepts.

Either way ill still be here supporting McG,while if nate loses you or fights someone else you probably won be supporting him,I sense your just one of them losers who takes pride in someone else faltering while they try to achieve something in life

Conor has a punchers chance that's it.So you think by the 4/5 rd he wont be tired?The dude has never been 5 rounds in his entire career. He gassed in 2 rounds. He looked gassed after Mendes which was 2 rounds. You think it won't be hard for Nate to check a leg kick?Your grasping at straws dude and I actually got a Black Belt in Martial Arts Tool that the
shitty Marine Corps MADE me get!!Not want MADE ME. You guys act like he is going to go build his cardio up and all will be well. It won't because he's going to have a dude that will push the pace,push his shit in,talk insane amount of shit to him the entire fight!!

 

[LoneStalker]

Conor has never been protected

 

[SlicerDM]

There is a difference between kicking range and boxing range.If you dont understand that your a moron.Also conor was pressuring the taller guy.Most striking coaches teach you never to do that.You go second.You let them close the range for you.

But as your a moron who has probably never sparred or taken any form of martial arts class ill accept that you dont understand these basic concepts.

Either way ill still be here supporting McG,while if nate loses you or fights someone else you probably won be supporting him,I sense your just one of them losers who takes pride in someone else faltering while they try to achieve something in life

Are you one of those guys who take pride in gurgling a man sack that you have never met? Are you one of those guys?

 

[Shapky86]

There is a difference between kicking range and boxing range.If you dont understand that your a moron.Also conor was pressuring the taller guy.Most striking coaches teach you never to do that.You go second.You let them close the range for you.

But as your a moron who has probably never sparred or taken any form of martial arts class ill accept that you dont understand these basic concepts.

Either way ill still be here supporting McG,while if nate loses you or fights someone else you probably won be supporting him,I sense your just one of them losers who takes pride in someone else faltering while they try to achieve something in life

Nates like a 15 min 3 mile runner for example. Conor is a 21 min 3 mile runner for example. Who will get tired faster running 3 miles at the harder pace. Simple math problem.

 

[fortheo]

He will.

Oh? because historically he's defended it so much? Why do you have so much faith in that statement? He's actively choosing to do the opposite.

 

[Humbaba the Terrible]

No one wants to watch that shit... only the die hard Conor fans wanting redemption.

Biggest fight possible is a bad joke at best....

I loved the first fight from beginning to end. Conor throwing bombs. Diaz bleeding down the side of his face. Conor getting shook up by that one-two to the chin. Conor finally showing us his boss level takedowns. Diaz not being surprised. Loved all of it.

Sherdog is its own bitter little bubble sometimes. A fight makes money because people pay money to see it. If a fight makes a lot of money that means a lot of people want to see it. Watching Diaz outbox Conor with grappling as a comical endgame is much better than watching Frankie attempt to point fight Conor on the feet and then on the ground.

 

[Rayban]

The UFC Championship belt is worth approximately 333,000 depending on current gold prices and contains 12lbs of gold, look it up...

Lmao don't believe everything you read on an MMA form. Some champs don't even get near 100k to show, they aren't being given a 300k belt after every win.

 

[Paynebringer]

It is pointless in terms of ranking and integrity of a sport lol but not in maximum money. I too was wishing for Conor vs Frankie for 200 but this rematch does not surprise me at all. UFC wants Conor's money train to keep on rolling...Conor can beat Nate Diaz due to both fighters loving the striking game so much and it is a matter of who is going to buckle first...there is no guarantee that Conor is going to drop first the second time around.

The UFC is betting that Conor with a smarter more patient approach will defeat Nate Diaz because of how their first fight unfolded. Frankie Edgar is a sell for a later date if Ronda Rousey decided not to fight this year (or ever?).

Frankie on the hand is a far far scarier fight in that he is willing to adapt and change according to how his fight is going. Not Nate Diaz, you hurt Nate standing he will still come at you the same way he did fresh. That said, I still fear that Conor's strikes and reach will be too much for Frankie when they do fight and wonder if the first clean shot Conor hits him with will put Frankie down ala Dustin Proirer or Jose Aldo.

Don't agree with all but most of this post. I think Dana saw how Holly who was short time title holder (I can't fully call someone champ until they defend their belt) lost her in her 1st title defense and squeezed back a fat turtle head up his ass at the thought his cash cow getting handled and that does not work for Dana;s business. Now we have a clusterf*k of confusion in three weight classes because of one man?

 

[Paynebringer]

Lmao don't believe everything you read on an MMA form. Some champs don't even get near 100k to show, they aren't being given a 300k belt after every win.

I'll just believe you from here on in...

 

[Rayban]

I'll just believe you from here on in...

lol...really though can you imagine Dana or the Fertittas ever spending money on something like that and not bragging about it?

 

[Krouget]

I saw nate losing every minute of the fight untill he wobbled conor.And conor went into full panic mode.

The problem with that approach, though, was that he was firing on all cylinders in the first round of a five round fight. There are many MMA fights which have taken place, where a fighters ability to weather an early storm sets the path to victory. Taking an early lead is one thing, but it shouldn't come at the expense of a plan B, should that lead not actually produce a sizable gap. In this case, that lead didn't and he was done by the 2nd.

Granted, McGregor has the ability to win a potential rematch, but he wasn't going to carry that 1st round level of offensive output for long. A slower fight with a better prepared Diaz is that much more dangerous.

Conor could come out and use teeps to the knee and avoid every exchange and fight on the outside and shock everyone.

That would get pretty predictable. Remember, a similar kick allowed Diaz to grab the leg and turn McGregor into the ground from a simple single-leg. That attack isn't very dangerous and constantly offering it up creates problems for McGregor, too.

Add to this, staying on the outside against a long fighter like Diaz (who leans back for defense and can defend the left better as a southpaw), doesn't look like the best strategy, either. McGregor is arguably faster and can pop a good counter, but with a six punch difference between the two men in the first round and a 10-9 for an especially active McGreger, there's nothing to really say he walks that one in.

He told me the man who attacks first and the most viciosuly wins a fight 90 percent of the time

Melvin Guillard would have a much better win record, if that were the case.

 

[Paynebringer]

Oh for sure.He moved up to face Rda for a few reasons.He still has a belt,if he succeeds he is an even bigger star.I firmly believe conor cares 0 about belts.And is literally in it for the big checks.Once he gets enough of them he will walk away.

If this truly is the case f*k the rematch between himself & Diaz fight RDA in a 5 rounder non-title fight. Since Conor don't deserve a belt bout after being beaten so clearly by Diaz and the UFC seems to going the way of the WWE have a belt vacate fight Loser vacates his belt and let their perspective divisions fight for it, how's that for promotion...