Full camp Chad Mendes could have beat Conor

Discussion in 'The Lightweights' started by RicksonsGrip, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. RicksonsGrip

    RicksonsGrip Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2016
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    371
    Just rewatched the fight... If Chad Mendes had been in shape, and had a proper camp, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have submitted or decisioned Conor.

    Besides Diaz, Chad was really the only fighter to make McGregor seem beatable. Whats interesting is that Chad is a wrestler, and was able to connect very strong shots on McGregor on the ground, and a very nasty cut via elbow.

    Chad also attempted a few submissions, and its clear to me on the final seconds of the fight, he emptied the tank on a final guillotine attempt, knowing that he didnt have any gas left. McGregor was able to scramble, and as soon as they got up, Chad knew he was done.

    After the ko you can see Conors reaction, sorta still shocked and surprised of the final outcome, he has very little gas left and can barely celebrate the victory, you can clearly see he wasnt too comfortable with how things were going.

    This has really been an eye opener for me, Khabib is much bigger and stronger than mendes, though he doesnt have a great single leg. His ground control and GnP are a lot better than mendes', and his cardio will surely be way better than 2 week Chad.

    Conor will also go through that conditioning dip after round 2, and Conors chances of finishing Khabib after round 2 diminish considerably. IMO if Khabib doesnt end up KOd in round 1 or 2, Khabib will humiliate Conor. We could well be in for another episode of El Tapo.
     
  2. drbolony

    drbolony -El Styles-

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2011
    Messages:
    9,623
    Likes Received:
    14,060
    Location:
    San Diego
    Would have*

    Reads like a hater thread, but you aren't wrong.

    <13>
     
    POWER2, Koimpact, BrianC18t and 10 others like this.
  3. Socialhandgrenade

    Socialhandgrenade Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2011
    Messages:
    13,884
    Likes Received:
    13,978
    Location:
    Edinburgh
    I think so too but it's in the past now and you're just gonna recieve backlash from his unreasonable fans.
     
  4. SKITZADACTYL

    SKITZADACTYL Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    21,919
    Likes Received:
    32,909
    or conor could've still knocked him out.
     
  5. Rittsy

    Rittsy Red Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2013
    Messages:
    8,267
    Likes Received:
    9,623
    Prior to the fight = I'm always in shape.
    Post-fight: I was coming off the couch, hardly train.
    Post-post fight: pops for PEDs.
     
  6. surgeyou1

    surgeyou1 Welcome to the Machida Era...Part Deux

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    22,638
    Likes Received:
    34,689
    Chad is much faster and 10000x better striker than Khabib. He was able to close distance because Conor still had to respect his boxing and his blast double leg is one of the best in the sport.

    I'm not even going to bother with the injury excuses.
     
    jojoRed, cigano, SKITZADACTYL and 7 others like this.
  7. Iroh

    Iroh The Dragon of the West Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    Messages:
    32,559
    Likes Received:
    21,007
    Location:
    Spirit World
    Uninjured Conor could have finished him in the first round.

    It's no use to linger on what could have been, bud.
     
  8. JayE

    JayE Red Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2016
    Messages:
    8,219
    Likes Received:
    10,835
    It's possible, even if Mendes never had great stamina. We already know McGregor doesn't have good stamina, so if he doesn't go for the guillotine and rides out position a little longer to get to the 3rd, things could have been interesting. I'd still likely side with McGregor eventually winning that.
     
    Po, IngaVovchanchyn and Coconutwater like this.
  9. Reign009

    Reign009 Not sure if serious.

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2008
    Messages:
    6,577
    Likes Received:
    27,103
    Don't read too much into that fight.

    Chad had a short camp and Conor had an injury.
     
  10. Mysterio

    Mysterio Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2018
    Messages:
    2,255
    Likes Received:
    8,321
    He was outstriking Conor, ragdolling him, controlling him on the ground and landing heavy elbows.

    Literally the only reason he lost was because of conditioning.

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  11. JayE

    JayE Red Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2016
    Messages:
    8,219
    Likes Received:
    10,835
    Mendes was/is a good striker (probably not really that well suited stylistically to deal with a guy like Conor, but still good with real speed and power), but you're dressing it up a tad (as in a ton).
     
  12. The Schmoop

    The Schmoop Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    7,545
    Likes Received:
    8,119
    There’s zero doubt in my mind that a full camp Mendes handles Conor fairly easy. He wouldn’t just walk through him but Conor would be gassed by the end of the 3rd.
     
  13. Rubberneck76

    Rubberneck76 Alizée Belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2008
    Messages:
    10,465
    Likes Received:
    10,483
    Location:
    The south of the north
    Don’t forget Chad had an injury as well.
     
    BrianC18t, Amorak, acannxr and 4 others like this.
  14. Socialhandgrenade

    Socialhandgrenade Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2011
    Messages:
    13,884
    Likes Received:
    13,978
    Location:
    Edinburgh
    10000 times better than Khabib apparently
     
    Iron Wolf and AssassinFacedBaby like this.
  15. wookie brawl

    wookie brawl Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,446
    Likes Received:
    4,769
    Location:
    Australia
    The only difference it would make is Conor KO's Chad in the second round
     
    cigano and PROlogic like this.
  16. TUFNewb

    TUFNewb Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,327
    Likes Received:
    11,688
    Lol Conor had 7 days to prepare for an entirely different opponent with and entirely different skill set. Like he wouldn't have done his camp differently if he knew he would be fighting a guy like Mendes... That fight was a sloppy mess and means nothing. Remember when "full camp Diaz" wouldn't be touched? Yeah we saw how that went.

    God people on this site are so fucking clueless about the training aspect of MMA. It's laughable.
     
  17. surgeyou1

    surgeyou1 Welcome to the Machida Era...Part Deux

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    22,638
    Likes Received:
    34,689
    Easily. Dude went toe to toe with Aldo on the feet for most of the 5 rounds.


    1000000000x is probably more accurate but I wanted to be nice.
     
    ArtOfDrowning likes this.
  18. Eme

    Eme White Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2011
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    211
    Remember when Dillashaw fought Joe Soto? Or Khabib vs Iaquinta? Jones vs OSP?

    It is extremely difficult to fight some last minute fill-in. And also remember that Conor was training for a stand-up fighter, and Mendes is a wrestler.
     
    MMACroatia and AssassinFacedBaby like this.
  19. Poirierfan

    Poirierfan Cajun MMA

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    Messages:
    3,134
    Likes Received:
    4,739
    Location:
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    I've always seen it exactly like TS stated. Conor's never dealt with anyone like Khabib though. I hate to put myself out there to eat crow, but I see a slaughter Oct 6th, a real one sided beat down. All Conor's "yes men" should have turned into "no men" when offered Khabib.
     
  20. Iroh

    Iroh The Dragon of the West Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    Messages:
    32,559
    Likes Received:
    21,007
    Location:
    Spirit World
    You are literally only focussing on what Mendes did and coincidentally omitting what Conor did, lol. Not biased at all, I see.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.