Freestyle Judo noob

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  1. Dirtmcgurt

    Dirtmcgurt White Belt

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    Tomorrow is my first class of Freestyle Judo, I was looking for a BJJ school but I chose this class to be honest mainly because it only costs $25 a month. (a huge difference from the expensive bjj school my daughter attends) From what ive read about Freestyle Judo it is similar to BJJ because there is a larger focus on Ne-waza then traditional Judo. It seems like a middle ground between Traditional Judo and BJJ from what I can tell. The largest difference i noticed is in tournament rules and scoring.

    Is anyone familiar with Freestyle Judo and do you think that a novice Freestyle Judoka could be trained well enough in the sport to be able to stand a chance in BJJ tournaments?
     
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    who's your instructor? FSJ is a good movement. i think it's got one of the best all-around rulesets for grappling, it'd be perfect if they did rounds.

    it'll be a good time. at the very least you'll learn how to fall. make friends with someone who has a hot tub, you'll be a whole new level of sore.
     
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    As always, it depends on your teacher and training partners moreso than the style.

    Btw, regular Judo can teach you groundwork to be competitive as well. I went to BJJ this week and submitted 4 blues and a purple. Went against a black belt and ... well, didn't get subbed.

    The only thing I would be wary about FSJ is that the competitors in Judo probably will still focus on IJF rules, so your training partners might not be as good. Maybe. I only know of one FSJ affiliated club.
     
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    I think freestyle judo is fantastic and I'd love it to become the main body of judo but, unfortunately, it isn't.

    I would be hesitant to recommend FSJ to a beginner purely because the instructors are likely to be better at an IJF club or a decent BJJ club.

    My advice would be to try all three and you can decide from there.
     
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    The club instructor
     
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    BJJ_Rage Gold Belt

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    im not doubting his skills, but this is the first time I hear someone being a certified full instructor in submssion grappling. (balck belts in karate tae bong soo do and othes do not mean jack shit for grappling)
     
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    Kind of agree with BJJ rage here.

    I'd also be interested to see if he got his first dan in judo from an IJF organisation.

    My experience from smaller organisations is they tend to just give them out. I don't know if it's the same in FSJ but it could well be.
     
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    yeah, rattling off belts and arts sounds real mcdojo-y, but who knows. you'll be able to tell pretty quickly whether or not they're worth a shit.
     
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    Why? What would be the point? There are no rounds in real fights.
     
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    That was just a copy and paste from the clubs website. Its the only AAU FSJ club in my state that I know of. Will see how it goes in a few hours. Personally I don't care much about other belts the instructor has other then in Judo. Im pretty sure ill be getting my ass handed to me today no matter what...im 34 and haven't trained trained hard in quite some time, hopefully I will get a nice workout for my measly $25 :)
     
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    Eddie Bravo has a black belt in that.
     
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    beating someone twice is better than beating them once. judo isn't a fight, it's a game.
     
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    Uchi Mata Preaching the gospel of heel hooks and left kicks

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    Because it's a sport. There are also strikes in real fights, no mats, no refs, your opponent's buddies, weapons, etc. The question should always be "what would make this a better sport" not "is this closer to a real fight". If that's what you want, there are plenty of MMA gyms around.
     
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    I don't think it would make it a better sport. I don't see why it would.
     
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    a shitty call from a panel wouldn't end a fight. you'd need to be awesome twice, or win two rounds by advantage.
     
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    With a genuine ippon there would be no need to beat the person twice - the original idea of the ippon was that it would have won the fight, whether through causing unconsciousness, ending in a pin (ippon by Osaekomi originally being considered the time it took to draw a tanto and administer a coup de grace on a pinned opponent), or strangulation/joint break. If you've read Kimura Masahiko's autobiography he talks about getting thrown equaling being killed on the battlefield.

    Judo needs to lose the "soft Ippon", allow more time in ne-waza if one person has a dominant position, and in general treat a judo match more as a controlled fight. The sport of Judo should never impede upon the martial art of Judo.
     
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    Well how was it?
     
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    seatea Black belt in Shotacon karate.

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    This is a myth: ippons used to be best out of three.
     
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    I've never heard this. Got any more info?
     
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