Free Tech-- KB's for Guard Passing

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  1. Delbjj

    Delbjj Green Belt

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    Here is a really cool tech that helps to build the strength, balance and stability that is required for standing guard passes


    www.takedowns101.com

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  2. Klotz

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    I don't think that would help much with passing the guard.
     
  3. Urban

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    I don't understand how it's more relevant than movements like the clean and press, front squat, or turkish getup.
     
  4. Delbjj

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    Its a weighted exercise simulating the exact motion required to stand in the guard. Which is the basis for all standing passes...

    I dont mean this in a rude way, but do you two train JJ?
     
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    I'll volunteer the answer first... nope.
     
  6. Barut

    Barut Banned Banned

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    KB's are for pussies. Lift weights and then play around with KB's if you want.
     
  7. Klotz

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    I don't. But my understanding of training is that you roll to get better and lift to get stronger. That exercise isn't rolling and it certainly won't be as effective for strength as some other lifts. But whatever, give it a try and see how it affects your guard passes.
     
  8. ChaseT.

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    Donnie Thompson uses kettlebells.
     
  9. Barut

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    Take = ChaseT.

    I'm sure that he gained all of his strength from KB's and only competes with a barbell b/c he's been unable to find KB-centric contests.

    Lots of people do crazy shit for 10% of the time that they're in the gym. It's the 90% that's important.
     
  10. SteveX

    SteveX Nobody F*cks Wit Da Jesus

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    it looks good, but when is the last time you got out of someone guard by just standing up?

    I see how it might help you, but I think deadlifts, squats, c&j's, some neck strength work, and some guard pass drilling + live rolling would help your guard passing 100x more.

    Not a knock on Ken though. He's puts out takedowns101 for free and shows a lot of great stuff.
     
  11. Delbjj

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    The real question is when was the last time you saw anyone high level pass on thier knees?
     
  12. Barut

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    I think the wrestling forum is above. Stop gheying up the S+P.
     
  13. Delbjj

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    Is this the meathead only section?
     
  14. ChaseT.

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    Pretty much.
     
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    SteveX Nobody F*cks Wit Da Jesus

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    I see your point, but wouldn't lifts like deadlifts which have the potential to increase your ability to posture as well your overall strength be more effective?

    I'm not disregarding the movement, but I wouldn't make it a staple lift
     
  16. Klotz

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  17. ratman201

    ratman201 S&P's resident Chef

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    It might be good as a movement for GPP, in which case it's the wrong form. But your are right to get a strength benefit out of it your have to be holding massive kettlebells. Strength in these movements would be better built with a clean, deadlift, rdl, etc. The ability to rack KB's is always going to limit this movement. Besides which it just seems like a lazy version of the turkish get up.
     
  18. wrestler53

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    just a waist of time... stick with clean variations
     
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  20. kaboom187

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    It's good, i suppose if you really wanted to make it an exercise where you put some weight on, you could hold a barbell in the zercher position. I think that'd be more effective.
     

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