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On how to have a "normal" interaction with Police. And by 'Normal" I mean not ending in arrest, being shot, Tazed, pepper sprayed or Killed.
A little about me I am currently a Fed. but I started out in the military and worked local PD for 6 years before I took a position with the Feds. I was raised in a "Ferguson", " Baltimore" type of city. My Mom is white dad is a Vietnam vet who is black. So my brother and I fall into the "light skinned" category of black men that some of our dark skinned blacks say makes us less likely to be assaulted by police "colorism" it's not for this thread and too faceted to delve into anyway.
I refer to myself as black because well that's what I look like, simple explanation. I don't deny my white half. Just if you look at me you don't see a white guy so now to the thread topic.
If you're a young black guy reading this. You might say well "why do I have to follow this sellouts advice?" (that's what black kids call black males in law enforcement lol)
Because I have what's in my opinion a unique purview of both sides of this issue. I will freely admit that they're are "racist cops" that said there are racist Krispy Kreme/Dunkin artisan, airline pilots, clergy, hair stylists, pro wrestlers, mechanics, news reporters, of course I could go on but you get the point.
Everything esp in America is viewed through unconscious and conscious stereotypes or racial/culture pre conceived notions good or bad Asians are good at math GOOD! Asians are bad drivers BAD just an example every not every Asian guy is a math wiz nor is every Asian a bad driver.
Just like not every Young black man that has dreads, gold teeth, sagging, pants and a bad attitude a thug. the problem with this outward projection of other ethnicities pre conceived notion of what a "thug" looks like, will in many instances get you treated like a thug.
Now am I advocating every young black guy start dressing and acting like Steve Urkel I mean that would help tbh. But that's not realistic. I only advise any young black guy that'll take the time to read all this that PERCEPTION is REALITY to most of your fellow humans. And a HUGE part of how you will be initially categorized by a stranger, or the police initially. So my advice is choose your style of dress and your public behavior(act like you got some damn home training and manners) ....wisely.
Now one thing many blacks some in my own family fail to ever admit is that blacks are very emotional, pride filled beings. and imo anytime one is emotionally ruled or filled with pride a fall of some sort or fashion is coming. Be it in whatever fashion it's coming.
So you young black guys reading this. You need to try and control the urge to cuss at sass, fight, run from, or assault the police in general when stopped. I know in a perfect world you shouldn't get tazed or arrested for having a pissing contest referring to the poor body language, cursing, or being a smart ass with a cop. But it isn't a perfect world.
If you get into a situation with a cop and you're deemed what we as cops term "un compliant" it is our duty to make you compliant. Depending on the cop, his mood, his level of training, and what you're saying to him. The cop may
1.De-escalate the situation by taking the "high road" or
2.Go into full alpha mode and make you respect him.
in either of those choices you still have to understand that the Police officer is in control. Even in the worst case scenario when a cop gets shot and killed at these traffic stops. ultimately you will lose.
if it's a minor traffic thing and you fell you've been racially profiled. My advice is to go along with it. Then if you feel that your constitutional rights have been violated, or infringed. Make a legal issue out of it, simply sue.That's the tried and true American way anyhow.
There are lawyers like Geoffrey Fieger in Detroit that all he does is live to sue PD's for apparent misconduct. If the cop was in the wrong and you follow the proper legal channels. You'll more than likely end up with a settlement check and that'll be the end of it.
The other choice of challenging a cop, running from a cop, resisting a cop, verbally berating a cop, 99% of the time will see you end up in jail, or maybe even dead. Now if a video like Charleston surfaces where there appears to be clear police misconduct. And by misconduct, I'm referring to the FACT that there is NO police Tactics, polices, or procedures, nor does any accredited Police Academy teach that you should shoot someone in the back.
The problem is with the Charleston case being an example is. That your ass is still dead. Yeah your family might get a fat check from the City. But you're dead. If the guy in Charleston never ran, right now, today, he'd be alive somewhere in Charleston doing whatever. if he had not ran, not struggled with the officer he'd be alive.
The exact same for the Michael Brown shooting. Young black male that has zero home training, basic respect for authority, or manners. Assaults a cop and gets killed.
And to hit on all the "Unarmed" furor of late. We're all MMA fans. That's what initially brought us to Sherdog. I'll assume most of at least train and many have probably jumped in the cage or the ring.
So if you're on these boards even as someone who doesn't train or fight. You know that someone can be knocked unconscious, or beat the fuck down without needing a gun, bottle, knife, brass knuckles, whatever to do it.
One thing you guys don't know is that almost every police academy the first or second day of the academy. The instructors shows us dash cams and prison video never released to the public of Cops and corrections officers getting beatdown and killed, physically assaulted their duty weapons taken and assassinated.
One video they showed us in Georgia a cop gets into a fight loses the fight the criminal gets his gun and before he shoots the cop point blank in the face you here on the dash cam "I've got a family" in which then you hear the perp respond "fuck your family" then the shot.
in conclusion. Obey what the cop is asking you to do, don't run from the police, don't fight with the police, don't charge at a cop (or any man) pointing a gun at you telling you to get on the ground. and you'll be fine.
from the time I've been an LEO I've been pulled over several times for speeding. I've yet to be tased, arrested, shot, or assaulted by a cop, and I never "badge" when I get pulled over. below are several links of cops who have been killed by unarmed suspects" so you anti cop haters can see what in the back of our minds when these confrontations go down. feel free to PM me.
http://www.odmp.org/officer/22056-police-officer-david-w-smith
http://www.breitbart.com/california...ficers-were-fatally-shot-by-unarmed-suspects/
http://www.policeone.com/close-quar...Own-Guns-Likely-Will-Not-Change-R-I-Policies/
A little about me I am currently a Fed. but I started out in the military and worked local PD for 6 years before I took a position with the Feds. I was raised in a "Ferguson", " Baltimore" type of city. My Mom is white dad is a Vietnam vet who is black. So my brother and I fall into the "light skinned" category of black men that some of our dark skinned blacks say makes us less likely to be assaulted by police "colorism" it's not for this thread and too faceted to delve into anyway.
I refer to myself as black because well that's what I look like, simple explanation. I don't deny my white half. Just if you look at me you don't see a white guy so now to the thread topic.
If you're a young black guy reading this. You might say well "why do I have to follow this sellouts advice?" (that's what black kids call black males in law enforcement lol)
Because I have what's in my opinion a unique purview of both sides of this issue. I will freely admit that they're are "racist cops" that said there are racist Krispy Kreme/Dunkin artisan, airline pilots, clergy, hair stylists, pro wrestlers, mechanics, news reporters, of course I could go on but you get the point.
Everything esp in America is viewed through unconscious and conscious stereotypes or racial/culture pre conceived notions good or bad Asians are good at math GOOD! Asians are bad drivers BAD just an example every not every Asian guy is a math wiz nor is every Asian a bad driver.
Just like not every Young black man that has dreads, gold teeth, sagging, pants and a bad attitude a thug. the problem with this outward projection of other ethnicities pre conceived notion of what a "thug" looks like, will in many instances get you treated like a thug.
Now am I advocating every young black guy start dressing and acting like Steve Urkel I mean that would help tbh. But that's not realistic. I only advise any young black guy that'll take the time to read all this that PERCEPTION is REALITY to most of your fellow humans. And a HUGE part of how you will be initially categorized by a stranger, or the police initially. So my advice is choose your style of dress and your public behavior(act like you got some damn home training and manners) ....wisely.
Now one thing many blacks some in my own family fail to ever admit is that blacks are very emotional, pride filled beings. and imo anytime one is emotionally ruled or filled with pride a fall of some sort or fashion is coming. Be it in whatever fashion it's coming.
So you young black guys reading this. You need to try and control the urge to cuss at sass, fight, run from, or assault the police in general when stopped. I know in a perfect world you shouldn't get tazed or arrested for having a pissing contest referring to the poor body language, cursing, or being a smart ass with a cop. But it isn't a perfect world.
If you get into a situation with a cop and you're deemed what we as cops term "un compliant" it is our duty to make you compliant. Depending on the cop, his mood, his level of training, and what you're saying to him. The cop may
1.De-escalate the situation by taking the "high road" or
2.Go into full alpha mode and make you respect him.
in either of those choices you still have to understand that the Police officer is in control. Even in the worst case scenario when a cop gets shot and killed at these traffic stops. ultimately you will lose.
if it's a minor traffic thing and you fell you've been racially profiled. My advice is to go along with it. Then if you feel that your constitutional rights have been violated, or infringed. Make a legal issue out of it, simply sue.That's the tried and true American way anyhow.
There are lawyers like Geoffrey Fieger in Detroit that all he does is live to sue PD's for apparent misconduct. If the cop was in the wrong and you follow the proper legal channels. You'll more than likely end up with a settlement check and that'll be the end of it.
The other choice of challenging a cop, running from a cop, resisting a cop, verbally berating a cop, 99% of the time will see you end up in jail, or maybe even dead. Now if a video like Charleston surfaces where there appears to be clear police misconduct. And by misconduct, I'm referring to the FACT that there is NO police Tactics, polices, or procedures, nor does any accredited Police Academy teach that you should shoot someone in the back.
The problem is with the Charleston case being an example is. That your ass is still dead. Yeah your family might get a fat check from the City. But you're dead. If the guy in Charleston never ran, right now, today, he'd be alive somewhere in Charleston doing whatever. if he had not ran, not struggled with the officer he'd be alive.
The exact same for the Michael Brown shooting. Young black male that has zero home training, basic respect for authority, or manners. Assaults a cop and gets killed.
And to hit on all the "Unarmed" furor of late. We're all MMA fans. That's what initially brought us to Sherdog. I'll assume most of at least train and many have probably jumped in the cage or the ring.
So if you're on these boards even as someone who doesn't train or fight. You know that someone can be knocked unconscious, or beat the fuck down without needing a gun, bottle, knife, brass knuckles, whatever to do it.
One thing you guys don't know is that almost every police academy the first or second day of the academy. The instructors shows us dash cams and prison video never released to the public of Cops and corrections officers getting beatdown and killed, physically assaulted their duty weapons taken and assassinated.
One video they showed us in Georgia a cop gets into a fight loses the fight the criminal gets his gun and before he shoots the cop point blank in the face you here on the dash cam "I've got a family" in which then you hear the perp respond "fuck your family" then the shot.
in conclusion. Obey what the cop is asking you to do, don't run from the police, don't fight with the police, don't charge at a cop (or any man) pointing a gun at you telling you to get on the ground. and you'll be fine.
from the time I've been an LEO I've been pulled over several times for speeding. I've yet to be tased, arrested, shot, or assaulted by a cop, and I never "badge" when I get pulled over. below are several links of cops who have been killed by unarmed suspects" so you anti cop haters can see what in the back of our minds when these confrontations go down. feel free to PM me.
http://www.odmp.org/officer/22056-police-officer-david-w-smith
http://www.breitbart.com/california...ficers-were-fatally-shot-by-unarmed-suspects/
http://www.policeone.com/close-quar...Own-Guns-Likely-Will-Not-Change-R-I-Policies/
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