Francis Ngannou is going to retire as the greatest HW of all time.

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  1. superpunch

    superpunch Gold Belt

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    He only defended his title 3 times; once against Big Nog, once against Cro Cop, and once against Mark Hunt. PRIDE mostly matched their champions in fun fights where the title wasn't on the line and only rarely made them "defend" against the top contender.
     
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  2. orca

    orca P4P #1 Machida fan

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    its as if people are acting like nganou is the only HW fighter with 1 punch ko power

    almost 99.9 percent of HW fighters could ko anyone with one punch

    hes nothing special.. prime jds and cain imo where superior than him

    hell i even think shane carwin could beat him
     
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  3. khabib time

    khabib time Green Belt

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    Does Dana want him to be champion?
     
  4. Xoleth

    Xoleth Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    His best wins are Reem, Cain, JDS and Arlo. It sounds amazing on paper, but all of them are old, out of their prime.
    - Arlo is 3-9 and was 0-3 before fighting Ngannou - not much of a win
    - Cain came back after years, looked in very bad shape, retired again after - not much of a win
    - Reem - out of his prime, he is still worthy of being ranked, decent win
    - JDS - same as Reem

    Also, Blaydes, who is a top HW.

    The Lewis and Stipe fights were terrible for him.
    1st one - no heart at all, 3nd one - no cardio

    Not such a great resume.
    Sure he is 33 and if he fights 3 times a year (of if he has Romero's longevity) he might have a top resume in the end.
     
  5. PIИKBLIИK

    PIИKBLIИK Orange Belt

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    Well first he will need to do something about his dog shit fight IQ, garbage grappling and poor gas tank.

    Right now hes pretty much just and arm.
     
  6. PommyBen

    PommyBen Wistfull With A Fist-Full

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    So if these are wolves hes been thrown to, what is he?
    Doesn't fit with the argument you're trying to make ..
    To be the best you beat the best.
     
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    spinup Green Belt

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    Lmao yeah they "could", but for some reason they don't. Ngannou could, and he did.
     
  8. orca

    orca P4P #1 Machida fan

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    both jds and cain where undefeeated after claiming the title.. nganou lost left and right .. yeah hes special.. u believe he fough prime cain and jds do u?
     
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    I think Jairzhino lost all his stock in that Overeem fight tbh. No one wanted to fight Ngannou and he didn't want to sit on the shelf. Blaydes has already built himself back up. With this DC Stipe rematch on the back burner the HW division is slowing down. It just seems like Ngannou is Blaydes cryptonite probably because if he hits him once the fight is over.
     
  10. spinup

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    wtf does that even mean? JdS lost before getting the belt, then lost in his second title defense. Cain got only to 9-0 before getting KTFO.
    They both got finished several times including in their primes, both got KOd, both got submitted.

    JdS was totally in his prime, and Cain would get KOd the exact same way if he was 10 years younger.

    Ho and yeah, he beat them both in 1min37sec, combined.

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  11. ostlerrage

    ostlerrage Black Belt

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    If he takes hi time and developed compuse then yes. I avree that he smokes sttipe in a rematch
     
  12. Ironnik94

    Ironnik94 Seek & Destroy Belt

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    That's a bold thing to say, considering that Gane, Rozenstruik and to an extent Blaydes get better with each fight and are (with the exception of Jairzinho) pretty well-rounded fighters.
     
  13. DayV

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    Do you understand that Pride also had 2nd world title = Grand Prix?

    Pride had both systems, lineal with defences and classic World championship, World cup like in other sports where all the best athletes gather in one tournamnet do determine the best.

    Other than that, basicaly every Fedor's Top 10 opponent was a legit defence of no.1 status, and also if he lost in lesser fights to unranked opponents, some other fighter would have overtaken him.
     
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  14. spinup

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    Blaydes and Gane are the future for sure, but I see Ngannou fighting Stipe (maybe twice) and Jones before them.
     
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    Jairzinho is shit. Dude lost four rounds, four minutes and fifty four seconds versus Reem. But he can end it with one blow. Dangerous opponent he is.

    Nganou deserves that titleshot. I see him dismantling Stipe in the rematch.
     
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    *Greatest heavyweight to ever crack rocks with a rod and hammer*
     
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    Problem Child Beer Belt Platinum Member

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    Agree.
     
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    Stipe via wrestlefuck In fight 2
     
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  19. MeatWagon06

    MeatWagon06 Fear the Pfister

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    Congrats on making it to Yellow Belt and not getting banned.

    Stipe beats Big Frank again.
     
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  20. TGArthur

    TGArthur You can't lose if you win the fight.

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    Have you seen his gas tank against Black Beast and Stipe?
    <{MingNope}><JRSmith40>
     
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