Franchised megagyms- Yay or nay

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  1. yodaman

    yodaman Brown Belt

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    Seeing the MFS LI post had me thinking a bit, which is what usually happens instead of me working anyway.:icon_chee

    More and more, you seem to be getting big name fighters/coaches lending their names out to affiliate gyms that the head coaches might visit once or twice a year, tops. For instance, in Long Island (a place whose only household MMA team to date has been Serra-Longo) there is now an Xtreme Couture affiliate opening.

    www.xtremecoutureny.com

    Pretty much all that they've done is buy the name to Xtreme Couture and then swallow up a bunch of smaller schools and put them in a new facility with new paint. As a trend, it doesn't seem to be going away. This differs from a place going "We're ____ gym which is an affiliate of _____".

    So, what do you all think of the idea?
     
  2. Timbaland

    Timbaland Black Belt

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    I don't like the idea at all. It is just a way for the person it is named after to make more money. What matters the most is how good the instructor is and how good the people there to train with are.
     
  3. Meegle818

    Meegle818 Blue Belt

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    Aren't you trying to make money by opening a gym? I mean, if the instructor list is accurate, there seems to a pretty impressive list. Whats the problem with Randy putting his name behind a gym where there is quality instruction...regarless if its an "affiliate" school
     
  4. Art Vandelay

    Art Vandelay Latex Salesman

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    If you're already paying $150+ monthly, it can't hurt to likely have:

    access to more classes
    more mat space
    better/more equipment
    additional amenities (gym, other perks)

    It's not like these gyms are opening up with a big name on the door and bad instruction inside. Sure, the big name is never there, but that instructor list looks very capable.

    If you're in a small gym, have a great schedule, and are getting black belt instruction every class, maybe it's not good.

    I'm am paying more monthly for 1-yr unlimited, and I don't have the massive schedule, amenities, training space, etc. Maybe my instruction is more personal, maybe not. I'm sure from the perspective of many like myself, these mega-gyms look awesome.
     
  5. TSLx89

    TSLx89 White Belt

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    What the hell? When did a Xtreme Couture open up in Long Island?
     
  6. Prokofievian

    Prokofievian Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    It is a path that could lead to the darkside(McDojodom). But if they have the funding of a bigger name, hopefully the standards will be upheld.
     
  7. D Train

    D Train Silver Belt

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    I think it's generally a good thing.
     
  8. ooitzoo

    ooitzoo Purple Belt

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    I agree with this in principle but looking at the site and the way they've set up a ranking system its a little trite. "Urban Combat Commander", "First Lady", etc...I mean, they've got Randy up there are a 4-start general. It just seems a little too cliche for my taste but good instruction is good instruction so what can you really say.

    if someone is a good instructor and produces good competitors then its irrelevant how they market themselves (assuming there isn't anything underhanded going on.)

    Its similar to "Massa" Lloyd, obviously the marketing and schemes put people off (with good reason) but he produces quality talent so there isn't much you can say about his teaching methods.
     
  9. yodaman

    yodaman Brown Belt

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    It opens come May. The first alarm bell in my head was the Kioto affilation. (They asked my coaches to teach the BJJ there but they declined)
     
  10. ooitzoo

    ooitzoo Purple Belt

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    What's Kioto?
     
  11. yodaman

    yodaman Brown Belt

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    A BJJ school/system. Mikey Triangles came out of that school before going to Redboy. I'm just saying, that Kioto wasn't their first choice for instruction apparently.
     
  12. Meegle818

    Meegle818 Blue Belt

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    if mansor is really teaching there, i would want to, that guys a living legend
     
  13. Zankou

    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I say yay. These megagyms generally seem to have top-notch instructors. That's a good thing. They can only eat into the McDojo market.
     
  14. franz_grinder

    franz_grinder Huggernaut

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    MFS has done well with this. they've also helped to watch dog there affiliate gyms. If a guy is shady than the Mega-gym will disassociate themselves and will ruin the reputation.
     
  15. TSLx89

    TSLx89 White Belt

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    So Kioto and Xtreme Couture merged? I wonder if Xtreme Couture is going to keep Kioto's ranking system.
     

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