Fourth time Charles will be competing with a vacant title on the line.

[Rorschachxx]

Surely this must be a record?

Now of course being technical, in the fight against Gaethje the title wasn't on the line for him but still a fight for a vacant world title.

First time was gainst Chandler at UFC 262, now the third time against Ilia at UFC 317.

Jon Jones is the only other guy I can think of who had this happen twice. When he won it against Gustaffson the second time and against Cyril.

Anyone else this happened to at least twice?

EDIT: Just realized its going to be the fourth time actually lol. Since he wasn't allowed to reclaim the belt against Gaethje, him vs Islam was also for the vacant title.

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

I think its above board. Charles is a great company man.

 

[tornado362]

Still counts as the first fight with Islam was for a vacant title due to Charles being stripped the fight before

 

[Rorschachxx]

Still counts as the first fight with Islam was for a vacant title due to Charles being stripped the fight before

Literally just wrote the edit lol. Completely forgot. That makes 4 different fights were a title was vacant, in which Charles competed.

Crazy.

 

[Steve Fox]

Charles is Elite. True test for Topuria too.

 

[cburm]

Charles is Elite. True test for Topuria too.

Isn't Charles coming off a loss why is gaethje not fighting

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Isn't Charles coming off a loss why is gaethje not fighting

Or maybe the guy that beat Charles?

 

[Steve Fox]

Isn't Charles coming off a loss why is gaethje not fighting

Charles is coming off a win vs Chandler.

Gaethje losing maybe has more weight in what can be done later. If Charles loses, he loses.

Or maybe the guy that beat Charles?

Arman needs to be born again under a new name.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

It's still a lot, but I think that's still technically 3 since he wasn't fighting for the belt against Justin

 

[Rorschachxx]

It's still a lot, but I think that's still technically 3 since he wasn't fighting for the belt against Justin

Of course, I worded it that he competed in fights were a vacant title was on the line, the Gaethje fight being the only one where he wasn't eligible for the title.

Three fights were he could win the title, four counting the one he couldn't.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Or maybe the guy that beat Charles?

 

[jeff7b9]

Or maybe the guy that beat Charles?

Arman is on punishment.

He can't come out and play.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Didn't stop Yoel from being given 36 consecutive title shots did it?

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Arman is on punishment.

He can't come out and play.

Yup. UFC is biting off their nose to spite their own face. Its the fans on punishment. Also they could easily scrap all these weight cut problems.

Simple solution is 6 weight checks. Three scheduled and 3 random during the 6 weeks prior to the fight. weight classes are a range of 10 pounds LW and under and 15 for WW and MW and 20 for LHW. Make them 10 pounds and add SWW and Franklin Weight.

Fly should be under 145
BW 146-155
FW 156-165
LW 166-175
WW 176-185
SWW 186-195
Franklin W 196-205
LHW 206-225
HW 226 +

Weigh in 6 weeks out, 3 weeks out and fight night. Plus 3 random checks.
Miss weight get a 10% reduction in your pay. Fighters will choose the weight class they fit and we will no longer have these weight cut fiascos. If a fighter isn't in shape 6 weeks out from their fight they don't belong in the UFC.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Yup. UFC is biting off their nose to spite their own face. Its the fans on punishment. Also they could easily scrap all these weight cut problems.

Simple solution is 6 weight checks. Three scheduled and 3 random during the 6 weeks prior to the fight. weight classes are a range of 10 pounds LW and under and 15 for WW and MW and 20 for LHW. Make them 10 pounds and add SWW and Franklin Weight.

Fly should be under 145
BW 146-155
FW 156-165
LW 166-175
WW 176-185
SWW 186-195
Franklin W 196-205
LHW 206-225
HW 226 +

Weigh in 6 weeks out, 3 weeks out and fight night. Plus 3 random checks.
Miss weight get a 10% reduction in your pay. Fighters will choose the weight class they fit and we will no longer have these weight cut fiascos. If a fighter isn't in shape 6 weeks out from their fight they don't belong in the UFC.

This sounds like it's logical and would work which is why I'm certain the UFC would fuck it up in some way.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

This sounds like it's logical and would work which is why I'm certain the UFC would fuck it up in some way.

Maybe one day. When the athletes are higher valued and their health matters. I think without the dehydration fighters could fight a lot more. You always hear fighters needing time to recover from a weight cut even when they win in a minute and take no shots at all.