International Four Americans Killed in Syria by ISIS

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  • Around 1 p.m. local time Wednesday, a suicide bomber blew himself up in a popular area of downtown Manbij, a northern Syrian city that’s been controlled by U.S.-supported Kurdish militias since it was wrested from ISIS in 201
  • Four Americans were killed — two service members, a civilian Pentagon official and a U.S. contractor — and three more injured, U.S. Central Command confirmed in a statement.
  • ISIS has claimed responsibility. While the group has not so far offered physical evidence to support the claim, critics have been quick to link the attack to President Donald Trump’s decision last month to withdraw all U.S. troops from Syria.

A few hours after Mike Pence said this:

Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday proudly proclaimed to an audience of America’s most senior diplomats that “ISIS has been defeated” and “the caliphate has crumbled.”

Yet he failed to mention that just hours before, ISIS had claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing in Syria that killed at least 15 people, including several US military service members.

It’s yet another example of how senior Trump administration officials continue to minimize the terrorist group’s strength in order to bolster the president’s case for withdrawing US troops from Syria, where the group still operates.

While the US under President Donald Trump has taken nearly all of the organization’s territory away, the Pentagon says ISIS still has about 30,000 fighters left in Syria and Iraq. That means the struggle against the group is far from over and remains very deadly — even if the administration won’t say so.

Wednesday’s attack is a case in point.
 
It's almost as if ISIS wants us to stay.

What does that say when neo-cons, neo-libs, and ISIS all want the US to stay in Syria?

It's like a axis of evil.
 
False flag. This is how America will justify staying there so they can take all the petrol.
 
Throttlehead said:
  • Around 1 p.m. local time Wednesday, a suicide bomber blew himself up in a popular area of downtown Manbij, a northern Syrian city that’s been controlled by U.S.-supported Kurdish militias since it was wrested from ISIS in 201
  • Four Americans were killed — two service members, a civilian Pentagon official and a U.S. contractor — and three more injured, U.S. Central Command confirmed in a statement.
  • ISIS has claimed responsibility. While the group has not so far offered physical evidence to support the claim, critics have been quick to link the attack to President Donald Trump’s decision last month to withdraw all U.S. troops from Syria.
A few hours after Mike Pence said this:

Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday proudly proclaimed to an audience of America’s most senior diplomats that “ISIS has been defeated” and “the caliphate has crumbled.”

Yet he failed to mention that just hours before, ISIS had claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing in Syria that killed at least 15 people, including several US military service members.

It’s yet another example of how senior Trump administration officials continue to minimize the terrorist group’s strength in order to bolster the president’s case for withdrawing US troops from Syria, where the group still operates.

While the US under President Donald Trump has taken nearly all of the organization’s territory away, the Pentagon says ISIS still has about 30,000 fighters left in Syria and Iraq. That means the struggle against the group is far from over and remains very deadly — even if the administration won’t say so.

Wednesday’s attack is a case in point.
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Well, this happened in Kurdish-controlled territory. These are the people we seek to abandon if we pull out of Syria. This is where our withdrawal has begun in its confused state.

So make a choice. Which is it? Is this an opportunity to mock Trump and Pence for digging their heads in the sand? For being idiots who have no grasp of the world? Or is this a moment to acknowledge that James Mattis, John Bolton, and Lindsay Graham maybe have some insight into the nature of that awful region, and how much less controlled it will become if we arbitrarily and expeditiously pull out?

You can't have your cake and eat it, too. I'm so fucking tired of westerners doing this.

Do you want the USA out of that region, or not? Expect a helluva lot more of this if we leave.
 
HIMBOB said:
Should America have done something in Afghanistan pre 911?
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Like what?

We are in Afghanistan, and have been for 18 years. The Taliban is as strong as ever.

What could have been done to prevent 9-11 other then listen to the 20 different intelligence sources that were sounding the alarm?
 
Madmick said:
Well, this happened in Kurdish-controlled territory. These are the people we seek to abandon if we pull out of Syria. This is where our withdrawal has begun in its confused state.

So make a choice. Which is it? Is this an opportunity to mock Trump and Pence for digging their heads in the sand? For being idiots who have no grasp of the world? Or is this a moment to acknowledge that James Mattis, John Bolton, and Lindsay Graham maybe have some insight into the nature of that awful region, and how much less controlled it will become if we arbitrarily and expeditiously pull out?

You can't have your cake and eat it, too. I'm so fucking tired of westerners doing this.

Do you want the USA out of that region, or not? Expect a helluva lot more of this if we leave.
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It's my opinion, even though I was against the initial Iraq invasion, it happened anyway. There's no going back now.

We broke it, we bought it. It's the wrong thing to do to abandon these people and the region.

It's immoral, shortsighted, and childish to just take our ball and go home now. It's our mess to clean up.
 
HIMBOB said:
Should America have done something in Afghanistan pre 911?
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Where did this one take place?
We should have bombed all the camps in Afghanistan in hindsight. Maybe fire one dud into the capital Building as a warning
 
Rational Poster said:
It's my opinion, even though I was against the initial Iraq invasion, it happened anyway. There's no going back now.

We broke it, we bought it. It's the wrong thing to do to abandon these people and the region.

It's immoral, shortsighted, and childish to just take our ball and go home now. It's our mess to clean up.
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There is no good guys team to get on. Assad or isis. Pick one. Who you giving the state to?
 
Suicide bombing in the Middle East is nothing special. Doesn't exactly take any coordinated military genius to pull it off, just a few nuts without a regard for their own well-being.

ISIS as a military threat is done. They will continue to be a terrorist nuisance like Al-Qaida and all the previous incarnations of jihadist extremism. There is nothing that can be done, to prevent that.
 
TheGreatA said:
Suicide bombing in the Middle East is nothing special. Doesn't exactly take any coordinated military genius to pull it off, just a few nuts without a regard for their own well-being.

ISIS as a military threat is done. They will continue to be a terrorist nuisance like Al-Qaida and all the previous incarnations of jihadist extremism. There is nothing that can be done, to prevent that.
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There is something that can be done... it has to do with Islam and education.
 
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