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Forward pressure should be rewarded

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  1. BraNerd Purple Belt

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    I don't understand this logic that forward pressure or "octagon control" should count for nothing. Forward pressure is a weapon and the reason Reyes had nothing in rounds four and five.
     
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    Octagon control is literally in the rules as one of the elements that helps score points.
     
  3. TheToqueville Banned Banned

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    Of course it should. When you move forward, you take more risk than the person who's retreating, thus it should and does count as more.


    Any idiot gets this concept, unless of course you already had a previous festering reason to hate a fighter, and it seems like a convenient excuse...
     
  4. Ironnik94 Silver Belt

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    As long as neither striking nor grappling is equal, i don't see why it should be awarded.

    You don't award losing teams in football (or other sports) for being more aggressive etc.
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    It's only weighed if grappling and striking are even though
     
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    Forward pressure is to be rewarded when and only when the difference in damage or effective fighting is negligible
     
  7. x__stylez__x Black Belt

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    So by your logic Nate won the second fight with Conor?
     
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    It IS rewarded...if grappling/striking are even. In the case of rounds 2 and 3, I think that's what won Jones the rounds. They were razor thin but Jones was stalking him down. That's when aggression and octagon control is scored.

    The reason why it the last of scoring criteria is because of counter fighters. Machida would never win a fight in his life if you scored aggression and control equally with strikes.
     
  9. Captain Herb 10000 Likes

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    Not if the one moving forward is getting lit up like a Christmas tree
     
  10. Slatersan Black Belt

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    It does get counted thats how jose is getting a title shot and jones beat reyes.
     
  11. Karuzo Banned Banned

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    Only when the fight is so close that you literally can't tell who landed more strikes.
     
  12. Karuzo Banned Banned

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    Jose Aldo didn't b eat Marlon though lol.

    At least not in the scorecards.
     
  13. Slatersan Black Belt

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    I fixed it to clarify.
     
  14. Captain Herb 10000 Likes

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    The reason judges gave 2 or 3 to Jones is because they didn't want to have Reyes already up 3 going into the championship rounds. They didn't want to give Reyes a decision, especially if other people had it for Jones, which they always do. Basic cowardice and lack of confidence in their own abilities as judges
     
  15. HARDCORE CHINO Purple Belt

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    tell that to the judges in Aldo/moraes
     
  16. poor form Banned Banned

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    You’re right. Which means Andrade should have beaten Joanna, right?
     
  17. Joseph_McBride Banned Banned

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    Forward pressure, like a takedown, is only as good as what u do with it.
     
  18. Wizzlebiz Wizzlebiz is the Wizziest

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    Forward pressure should be the absolute last criteria after all others have been ruled out as even.

    It should never be the 1st metric deciding a fight.
     
  19. Aluminati It deserved to die, and I hope it burns in hell.

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    Should making your opponent miss when counterstriking be considered effective striking?
     
  20. Mohawk Banditó Black Belt

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    So does that mean that Dom automatically wins rounds 1-3 because Jon had to backpedal constantly?
     

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