Crime Former Oregon House Speaker Dave Hunt cited in sex trafficking sting

[kimocomplex]

he done goofed

 

[JDragon]

He responded to an escort / hooker add placed by law enforcement.

Wait, they do what?

 

[cooks1]

Doesn’t say anything about children. So he was trying to pay for some pussy? It’s pretty terrifying that you can get arrested for something we all do - sometimes less directly/transactional

Yeah, he went on line to try and buy a hoe. It was a sting. Solicitation of prostitution. It was an on line sting. Let's call it was it is. Enough of this trafficking BS.

He will likely get done for it because he is not as rich as Robert Kraft. Deserves whatever is coming his way. He has a wife and 21 year old daughter. Imagine explaining this shit to them.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Politicians lie about being religious because people are hypocritical and expect politicians to be religious. Ultimately it is the fault of mainstream society.

Oh, blame it on the people for being lied to. That's great reasoning right there.

We hope politicians would be religous so they'd fear the consequences of their actions in either this life or the next.

 

[MicroBrew]

Oh, blame it on the people for being lied to. That's great reasoning right there.

We hope politicians would be religous so they'd fear the consequences of their actions in either this life or the next.

Yes it is the people, because they are the ones who hypocritically demand politicians be religious.

Being religious or proclaiming to be religious has never stopped people from being total dickheads, so why would people think being religious would put the fear of god into politicians?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Child Porn / Sex Trafficking is a problem among the powerful of BOTH parties, Hollywood, Banking/Wallstreet, and world leaders.

I'll say the exact same thing about this Democrat that I said about the Republican - "If true, I hope he's tried, sentenced, and publically disgraced."

Regardless, Democrats are the absolute worst kind of liars - the ones that want absolute control and are willing to do and say anything to get it.

Well, the "b-both sides" mask fell off pretty quickly there.

Didn’t read just looked at pic

He’s Guilty

I was just going to say, once again not surprised based off his hairline

 

[Islam Imamate]

Politicians lie about being religious because people are hypocritical and expect politicians to be religious. Ultimately it is the fault of mainstream society.

Huh? They're not entitled to the gig and if they're lying to get it then they've already shown they're not suited for the job.

Yes it is the people, because they are the ones who hypocritically demand politicians be religious.

How is it hypocritical?

Being religious or proclaiming to be religious has never stopped people from being total dickheads, so why would people think being religious would put the fear of god into politicians?

People want their representatives to represent them and their values, what's wrong with that?

 

[Mila is My World]

Well, the "b-both sides" mask fell off pretty quickly there.

I was just going to say, once again not surprised based off his hairline

Also as @GearSolidMetal is intentionally failing to point out, this particular case (while despicable) has nothing to do with child crimes. This is a false equivocation and he knows it.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Also as @GearSolidMetal is intentionally failing to point out, this particular case (while despicable) has nothing to do with child crimes. This is a false equivocation and he knows it.

Who's saying there's not any crimes against children in this case of sex trafficking?

The details of the article don't specifically mention child sex trafficking, but its not like sex traffickers are known for checking IDs to double-check the girls... or boys... they're kidnapping and prostituting are over 18.

You lefties are really splitting hairs trying to make it seem the recent Republican charged for child porn is actually worse situation. Did the right-leaning members of the warroom jump to his defense with arguments that split hairs to 'excuse' what he did? Absolutely not. Did we ask 'Well, there's nothing in the articles gauging if he actually took the photos himself or if he simply downloaded them' ? No, we didn't don't give a fuck either.

If you want to go down the discussion of what members of a party have committed the worse sex crimes, good luck trying to find a worse sex criminal than Jeffrey Epstein in the Republican Party.

 

[MicroBrew]

Huh? They're not entitled to the gig and if they're lying to get it then they've already shown they're not suited for the job.

How is it hypocritical?

The reason politicians have to go throught this theatre of outward religiosity is because they know the American people expect their elected representatives to be religious. Western Europe is far more honest and is far less pretentious in this regard

People want their representatives to represent them and their values, what's wrong with that?

Because the value in question is religiosity and subsequently the percevied fear of god, which is all just theatre. Society should be honest as much as possible, and refrain from going along with a charade.

 

[Islam Imamate]

The reason politicians have to go throught this theatre of outward religiosity is because they know the American people expect their elected representatives to be religious. Western Europe is far more honest and is far less pretentious in this regard

Politicians are always going to put on a front, that's not unique to th US and certainly happens in Westenr Europe. The difference is Westenr European countries are the opposite and in places like France they tend to shun religious folks from the public sphere and politics. I prefer US secualrism over French secularism.

Because the value in question is religiosity and subsequently the percevied fear of god, which is all just theatre. Society should be honest as much as possible, and refrain from going along with a charade.

Democratic politics are always going to incentivize a charade of sorts, your problem here then should be with religion but with democracy.

 

[terrapin]

I just read a book called american psychosis and one of the chapters delved into legalized prostitution. Legalizing in other countries has done nothing to stop people from recruiting underage girls into the sex trafficking world and has done nothing to stop the exploitation for sex trafficking of men and women who are poor or displaced as refugees all over the world.

Legalizing is not the sollution i once thought it could be. There is still a chain of physical mental and emotional abuse, kidnapping and coercion feeding the industries that at the point of service are legal.

Legalization esencially means we as a society decide that is all ok with us making us monsters in the process.

 

[terrapin]

Legalized prostitution is still associated with criminality in the Netherlands and it doesn't stop human trafficking. It's an exploitative "industry" through and through.

This.

 

[MicroBrew]

Politicians are always going to put on a front, that's not unique to th US and certainly happens in Westenr Europe. The difference is Westenr European countries are the opposite and in places like France they tend to shun religious folks from the public sphere and politics. I prefer US secualrism over French secularism.

Democratic politics are always going to incentivize a charade of sorts, your problem here then should be with religion but with democracy.

But the reason our politicians put up this particular front, is because society demands it. If society was more honest, they wouldn't have to keep this charade going.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

They all claim to be religious.

*Harry Reid - Mormon
*Barrack Obama - (Protestant)
*Nancy Pelosi - Catholic
*Bill Clinton - Southern Baptist
*Chuck Schumer - Jewish
*Joe Biden - Catholic
*Kamala Harris - Baptist

You atheists understand the *wink*wink* because polls show that most religious groups, including atheists, wouldn't vote for an atheist.

So, they do what politicians already do best, they lie. Running for office basically is the longest job interview ever to test how many lies they can tell to convince the most voters.

And once they're caught doing horrible shit... you atheists say 'Well, they're religous. No surprise there" as if atheists haven't committed some of the most monsterous acts in human history.

So you wrongfully assume that @blaseblah is an atheist just because he's on the left, then you assume that ALL of those politicians are atheists who are lying about being religious (probably wrongfully again for most, if not all of them), then you refer to atheists as a "religious group" and claim that they wouldn't vote for a fellow atheist.

Jesus Christ man, you should be able to reason and think better than this, but you're willfully ignorant due to being a rank partisan hack. You can and should be better than this. This is SAD.

 

[skold]

Why is @GearSolidMetal trying to connect this case of soliciting a prostitute to child porn/sex trafficking?

Oh nevermind, I know why.. Cause TS is a shameless liar and a biased partisan hack

 

[GearSolidMetal]

So you wrongfully assume that @blaseblah is an atheist just because he's on the left, then you assume that ALL of those politicians are atheists who are lying about being religious (probably wrongfully again for most, if not all of them), then you refer to atheists as a "religious group" and claim that they wouldn't vote for a fellow atheist.

Jesus Christ man, you should be able to reason and think better than this, but you're willfully ignorant due to being a rank partisan hack. You can and should be better than this. This is SAD.

All of the politicians I mentioned support abortion up to the point of birth, including partial-birth abortion although most babies are able to survive outside the mother after the 2nd trimester.

There is no logical argument for the restriction not to be put in place, and all religions they are supposed loyal followers of are completely against partial-birth abortion. So... if they're supposedly so religious why do they STRONGLY resist any restrictions?

One - They're atheist.
Two - They don't want to piss off the pro-abortion campaign contributors because they'd withhold money for their re-elections. So its about money, which they value over human life, and the principles of the religion they're supposedly loyal to.

Any other option like "They fear being labeled as a sexist for standing against 'Womens rights' would be disadvantageous to their political careers" is closely related to the second option, so lets roll that into it.

then you refer to atheists as a "religious group" and claim that they wouldn't vote for a fellow atheist.

Yeah, Bill Maher pointed that out on his show a few years ago, and he criticized his own atheist audience about it.

Yes, I do watch Bill Maher, unironically. I enjoy his show.

And yes atheist are their own religious group and 'science' is their god who believe the universe was created by a big bang, climate change will destroy the planet in a decade, and look at their political leaders as their religous leaders who will lead then into a utopia on Earth.

All hail science.

 

[AndroidRage]

They all claim to be religious.

*Harry Reid - Mormon
*Barrack Obama - (Protestant)
*Nancy Pelosi - Catholic
*Bill Clinton - Southern Baptist
*Chuck Schumer - Jewish
*Joe Biden - Catholic
*Kamala Harris - Baptist

You atheists understand the *wink*wink* because polls show that most religious groups, including atheists, wouldn't vote for an atheist.

So, they do what politicians already do best, they lie. Running for office basically is the longest job interview ever to test how many lies they can tell to convince the most voters.

And once they're caught doing horrible shit... you atheists say 'Well, they're religous. No surprise there" as if atheists haven't committed some of the most monsterous acts in human history.

You forgot

*Donald Trump - Christian

<Lmaoo>

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You forgot

*Donald Trump - Christian

<Lmaoo>

Or the Republican congress leadership that refused to defund Planned Parenthood when they could have when they had a majority... which they had 8 years to do it.

Don't mistake my scorn for Democrats for having praise for Republicans. I despise them just as much if not MORE than the Democrats because the Democrats push their agenda as if they're on the war-march when they're in power. When Republicans are in power they come up with excuses for not doing what they promise on the campaign trail, while doing absolutely everything their big business campaign contributors tell them to.

I've had it with the Republican Party. Fuck them.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Why is @GearSolidMetal trying to connect this case of soliciting a prostitute to child porn/sex trafficking?

Oh nevermind, I know why.. Cause TS is a shameless liar and a biased partisan hack

Can you not read?

If you can, read this again -

"In 2011, he also voted for HB 2714, that bill created the crime of commercial sexual solicitation, the crime for which he was arrested and cited."

By the law he himself supported, which defined the crime he committed as 'Sex Trafficking.' Can't claim ignorance of the law on this one, since he was a law maker who supported it.