Media Former Olympic Champ Henry Cejudo Weighs in on Simone Biles Situation (Disagrees)

[det_regnar_på_vår_kärlek]

Weak stuff. Unless you're paying their bills, you shouldn't feel entitled to say whether someone needs tough love or not.

 

[DoctorDeelon]

3 minute vid but some quick cliffs for the ADHD Sherdoggers/shertards

-Says Simone needs to check herself
- Needs to be shown some tough love
- You need someone to kick you in the ass not a bunch of yes men around you
- Need to remind yourself it’s an event 4 years to cement yourself as one of greatest athletes of all time
- Tattoo’d a goat on herself and has to live up to that (references Jordan flu game and him beating Moraes on 1 leg and shoulder)
- Pressure makes diamonds, should have competed and lived with end result


Civil discourse only

Henry is the fuckin man

 

[quebert]

The Jordan flu game was a myth, the night before the game he had eaten an entire pizza, and woke up with what his team's trainers assumed was food poisoning. Not that him still playing wasn't impressive, because it was. But it wasn't nearly as woooah sounding as him with a 102f flu playing his ass off.

 

[Sticko]

Simone wouldn't win anything on 10 system. This code is best case scenario for someone with big tricks and mediocre form.
Her decision cost someone a spot on that team, imagine being an alternate and watching Simone just choose not to compete because she got lost on a trick.

It's a 4-person team but only 3 do routines on each event. Biles dropping out after the vault let her teammates do 3 more routines than they would have done otherwise.

Biles already competed in qualifications. You can't replace a team member with an alternate once the competition has started.

Just think of this as like an injury thing but it's more mental than physical.

 

[eddi]

Cejudo doesn't appear to know or empathize with her situation.

He's discussing sports motivational techniques. Those may work 90% of the time but this is a very unique type of situation best handled by the team.

Biles did poorly in the first event and then after consultation with the team physician decided to withdraw. The high flying stuff of gymnastics is incredibly dangerous and you've got to be in the proper frame of mind to compete. Simone said she didn't want to bring down the scores of the team.

She remained there and rooted for them. They all supported her decision. Her best friend and teammate went out and got a silver medal.

Biles was sexually abused by the team's former doctor. That criminal from Michigan State. Don't know all the details but I think it was repeated incidents when she was a young girl. That's a horrendous thing to happen to any person.

I respect Cejudo as a fighter. More I hear him talk I disagree with his opinions on things other than mma.

Naaaaaah there was 0 danger for the bitch quit fronting with that crap, she felt lesser than usual and instead of owning it and going to war no matter the result she broke her teams momentum, as the most talented one in the team she's obviously the leader and holds a lot of power there so withdrawing like a selfish little bitch ruined the momentum, basically she rage quit and was mentally weaker + extremely entitled no matter how you spin it.

 

[herra]

You realize that one of the people supporting Strugg in that video is the man who sexually abused a lot of gymnists, including Biles, right? Still wanna say that's a beautiful moment for sports?

No point really in playing the suffering Olympics but I'm pretty sure most people, even Sherdoggers, would choose Cejudo's path over Biles'

If you narrow the scope of that moment, it was one of the most greatest and dramatic moments in the Olympics. It's an epitome of athletic greatestness, which is why the Olympics reuses that event it in their promos in every Olympics. And yes I'm aware of Nassir and his sexual abuse. The things he's done to the gymnasts are terrible and hope he gets anally raped in jail every day

 

[herra]

This is true, Simone does much harder vaults than Strug ever did. Although to be fair, they changed from the vaulting horse to the table in 2001, which makes it a lot easier to do complicated moves. Also completely changed the scoring system since then in a way that encourages you to do difficult, dangerous moves; they got rid of perfect tens and instead you have a difficulty score and an execution score.

How do you know so much about gymnastics? LOL

 

[Sticko]

Naaaaaah there was 0 danger for the bitch quit fronting with that crap, she felt lesser than usual and instead of owning it and going to war no matter the result she vroke her teams momentum, as the most talented one in the team she's obviously the leader and holds a lot of power there so withdrawing like a selfish little bitch ruined the momentum, basically she rage quit and was mentally weaker + extremely entitled no matter how you spin it.

You are posting like a complete dumbass

 

[Slapchoppin]

hair looks like shit my dude

just dye it back to black

 

[Ornife]

Boles is the greatest and most heroic athlete in history.

If you have an opinion that contradicts that irrefutable fact then you are evil.

 

[yookfarb]

pretty sure Simone Biles doesn't require a consensus to make this decision. She made it knowing full well that the absolute worst parts of society would react to it exactly the way they have, and she did it anyway, because she felt it was best for her. Find something else to pretend to be outraged about already, this shit is boring

Cejudo represents the absolute worst of society? Strong words

 

[Yep]

It's a 4-person team but only 3 do routines on each event. Biles dropping out after the vault let her teammates do 3 more routines than they would have done otherwise.

Biles already competed in qualifications. You can't replace a team member with an alternate once the competition has started.

Just think of this as like an injury thing but it's more mental than physical.

I think he’s saying had she decided not to compete before that. And her pulling out absolutely screwed her team. Thankfully they didn’t have one member that was a full blown specialist like the previous team. That was an absolute bummer.

 

[Sticko]

How do you know so much about gymnastics? LOL

My sister trains in gymnastics (doesn't compete though) and it's her favorite Olympic sport so I've seen a fair bit of it over the years
Plus I've fallen down my fair share of Internet rabbit holes

 

[kibz]

That’s sounds well and good to say that flippantly (actually myopic) until someone goes on a mass casualty mission or harm themselves then people wonder why they didn’t seek help prior to their final breaking point.

I guess you can’t blame him for being shortsighted (pun intended)

 

[quebert]

And who cares what the hell CCC thinks anyways? I want to hear Colbys take on the situation. It will be very level-headed, intelligent and well thought out like everything else he speaks about.

 

[Fraz]

Simone Biles must be tried for treason

 

[Epicman1324]

TL;DR: Both sides have valid points. Simone Biles is a human being who may very well be struggling with mental health, however, she also paraded around less than a month ago about being the GOAT and proceeded to disappoint her team, and the world. I personally see both sides and am relatively neutral on this subject, and I won't attack you for whatever opinion you may hold.

My take as a former elite A-Level 6 Star recruit High School football player. Simone Biles is both right and wrong, and both sides of the argument have credit. Simone Biles is likely the greatest gymnast of all-time, and a big part of Team USA's success. She is also a human being. Mental health is not to be discounted, and if a person says that they need to take a break from something, or they need time alone to cope etc. that person should not be discounted. You don't know what somebody is going through, especially a world-class athlete with the expectations of their nation on their shoulders. HOWEVER, Simone Biles was parading around no less than a month ago about her being the GOAT of gymnastics (which is true, regardless of this incident), and making a big ruckus about her success. If you do shit like that, and then pull out of the final event and are likely the reason why your team got Silver instead of Gold, you should not be immune to criticism. Imagine if a guy like Jon Jones or Amanda Nunes went on a huge marketing campaign about their GOAT status, only to pull out of their next fight on the day it's scheduled to happen because of "mental health". They'd be crucified. Being a world-class athlete comes with tremendous mental stress and pressure to perform. That's part of it. GOATs step up to that. Simone Biles did not (at least in this case. There may be numerous other times where she felt this way before an event but decided to muster up the strength to push on, which is admirable). I am not going to call Simone Biles a pussy, a quitter, a liar, or any of that. But I will simply state that in recent years, mental health has become a crutch for people (usually women who have a minuscule fraction of the pressure faced by Simone Biles) to cling on to as an excuse for making questionable and bad decisions. Mental health struggles are not something that the person going through wants to publicize if they are as serious as they make it out to be. Granted, that goes for the common person, and not Simone Biles. There was no way Simone Biles could do what she needed to do for her battle with mental health without it getting publicized, she's an Olympian and that's not her fault. Regardless, both side's arguments hold water. And whether you agree or disagree with her decision, she is still a human being just like you and I.

 

[PrepareForGlory]

Lol bruh not sure if you've ever had a xanax but I cant really imagine doing backflips with coordination after taking one

I have a Xanax prescription. I'm not saying she should take 5 mg and go out there but they go as low as 0.5 mg per pill. She wouldn't be a zombie out there

 

[Willie]

As someone who does suffer from depression (light but still), having some condescending man you have never met telling you to just "man up and do what you're told" is the exact reason why so many people fall in depressions in the first place.

 

[TheLegionnary]

Heard her name around but don't know exactly what she did, don't care for boring sports or the Olympics.

Cejudo sounds like he's spooking the truth though. I usually can't stand him.

More like he is trying to get attention. And how you do it ? By going the opposite way of all the people who show support to Biles.