Social Former boss trying to boycott me and not recognizing he is not my boss anymore (long read)

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  1. SalvadorAllende Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    What's up sherbros. TLDR version at the end.

    A couple of weeks ago I was promoted at work. I now occupy the charge of operations manager or whatever the company owner wants to call it (not a big fan of titles).

    It's a small logistics/customs clearance company of about 14 people. It used to work like this:

    The owner had a guy running the operations (5 people inside the office, 3 outside) and another one in finances (3 people total). Plus his brother that is developing a new service, a secretary and a few administrative.

    Seeing that the relationship between the operations manager and the team was pretty bad which lead to a lot of things going south and basically everybody at the office not putting much into their work he decided to promote me to run the team.
    The owner told me that the other guy made a big deal about nonsense and had everybody stressed out.
    Now the other guy is supposedly going to be more on the street (going to customs and solving problems) which is the part I don't like and I'm not strong at it.
    It was made explicitly clear that I'm at the same hierarchy as him.

    The owner was pretty clear: I make the decisions inside. Anything regarding the people working there from incentives to punishments go through me and is 100% my choice.


    Anyways. I knew this guy was going to start pulling some crap on me.

    My first action was to stop a sanction that the other guy was pushing against 2 coworkers who made a human mistake that costed us literally a few bucks. He hated that.

    Another example.. last week I interviewed a guy for my former position (I'm getting 2 people) and I really liked his profile. When I showed him the resume (out of cortesy, didn't had to) he said "oh, I interviewed this guy... there is something wrong about him, I can't remember what.. don't hire him".
    There is a shortage of specialist in what we do (and what we can afford) and this guy is not working at the moment, has like 20 years of experience and really needs the job.
    At the beggining he told me that the guy had a terrible reference from another job, then he said maybe it wasn't that and he was misremembering and he didn't like the attitude of the guy in the interview.. he said it was "too relaxed".
    Hiring has been terrible in the last couple of years. I saw a lot of people passing by doing a terrible job and lasting a few months leaving us with more problems than anything.
    I said fuck it and hired the guy. He is starting tomorrow.

    Today I heard him talking on the phone with our clients telling basically that a guy left (an operations guy at some point they tried to make supervisor but failed at it) and that I was taking charge.. and that it was The owner > Him > Myself.

    Also I just checked my emails a while ago to see an email from him directed to me and a woman that works in my area asking for explanations about a situation that happened today (which he misunderstood) and asking what we are going to do to avoid that in the future. Like I have some explaining to do to him.

    Since getting promoted I tried to make him participate or at least I ask him about his thoughts on why of the decisions I'm making. I'm trying to make it easier for him but I'm tempted to blocking him out completely

    This exact same thing happened to me years ago and the other guy ended up being fired when he decided to go against me.

    So.. what do you guys think? at this point I have 3 options:

    1) Fuck it and tell him that I don't own any explanations to him. We go to war.
    :meow:
    2) Cooperate with the guy and slowly making him understand I'm not there to compete with him.
    {<Scared}
    3) Wait until my area is strong enough and literally take everything away from him and leave him with only the things I don't want to do.
    <seedat>







    TLDR Version:
    Former boss can't understand I'm on his level now. Couple of days in and he is still acting like he is above me.
    Should I streamroll over him like I did in a similar situation on the past or should I be the bigger man and working him slowly and peacefully until everything ends up where it should be?





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    @Red Beard.This is a #workMOBtactis situation. Your input will be welcome.
     
  2. A.A. Riggs sweet ... sweet meat!

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    Denis Boicot? The French Canadian figure skating phenom?
     
  3. Rebelfett Father likebot

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    Boycott*
     
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  5. crabmeat Orange Belt

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    I'd just avoid the guy and not deal with him unless it's absolutely necessary. I'd make it clear there's a defined border and to stay the fuck on his side. You can say it in a nice manner, but I think the direct approach works. Sit back and watch this guy self-destruct. I never had much tolerance for office politics or drama. I axed people that that were caustic.

    Btw, asking for his opinions is coming across as submissive.
     
  6. SalvadorAllende Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    I speak spanish (native), french and english. Sometimes I get a the words mixed up.

    I actually wrote that in spanish lol.

    I corrected it. Thanks,
     
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  8. Rebelfett Father likebot

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    Sit him down and calmly explain
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    Didn’t read but don’t cry for me Argentina. The Truth is I never meant to hurt you.
     
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    Based on cliffs, sounds like you guys are in a cartel war. Lol.
     
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    Just be very straight forward with him. He's not your boss anymore, and you don't have to take orders, recommendations, or shit from him.
     
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    That is actually great advice.

    I never have problems with anybody and I actually gave the guy a props in front to our boss because I knew his self esteem was hurt.

    Agree on the last part too. I'm done asking for his opinions. It's stupid in hindsight because he failed at the work I have been asigned to do.
     
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  13. A.A. Riggs sweet ... sweet meat!

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    What's the Spanish word you used?
     
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    You seem to be in the right for the most part, but perhaps stopping a sanction against 2 underlings undermines his authority... even though you were justified.
     
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    Bang his mom.
    If shes dead dig her up and bang her twice.
     
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    TL DR
     
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    yada yada yada, Jesus Christ get to the point already.
     
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  19. SalvadorAllende Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    I fucking love sherdog.

    Well.. one of our clients has been sued by customs for overbilling (which is basically monteray contraband) so...

    Yeah. That too.

    Boicot which is spanish for boycott.

    I'm not about sanctions. Specially when those are economics (yeah, he wanted to discout money from their next paycheck). The overall boss asked me what should we do and told me it was 100% my choice.
    I see how it undermined his authority but the office would be a warzone of we actually did that (both employees said they were leaving if that happened).

    Motherfuckers I put a TLDR version.
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  20. A.A. Riggs sweet ... sweet meat!

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    Blackballing/Votar en contra de
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    [The] rejection in a traditional form of secret ballot, where a white ball or ballot constitutes a vote in support and a black ball signifies opposition.[1] The system is typically used where an organisation's rules provide that one or two objections, rather than an at-least-50% share of votes, are sufficient to defeat a proposition. Since the seventeenth century, these rules have commonly applied to elections to membership of many gentlemen's clubs and similar institutions such as Masonic lodges and fraternities.

    The principle of such election rules in a club is that it is self-perpetuating to preserve the current ethos (and exclusivity) of the club, by ensuring that candidates are congenial to (almost) all the existing members; i.e., new members are elected by unanimous or near-unanimous agreement of voting members. A difference of opinions could be divisive, so that an election must be taken secretly as well as correctly.

    The number of votes in support is often irrelevant, except to prove a quorum. Whilst in many such cases even a single black ball will be fatal to the candidate's election, rules in larger clubs ensure that a single member cannot exercise a veto to the detriment of the future of the club. For example, two black balls are required to exclude; a limited category or committee of members vote, rather than all members; or in the event of a blackball, the election may be repeated immediately to ensure that there is no mistake, or after a fixed period to allow further information or opinions to be discussed discreetly. A variant sometimes used is that all incoming candidates are voted on as a group; if the group as a whole is blackballed, then each member must be voted on individually.

    The practice also found popularity in areas outside of social clubs. In the Soviet Union, dissertation panels would typically cast their vote on a thesis defense using this system.

    Robert's Rules of Order notes that the use of black and white balls can be ordered by passing an incidental motion to that effect. The manual notes, "This custom, however, is apparently declining."[2]

    The term still remains in use for many different electoral systems which have applied from club to club and from time to time: for example, instead of differently coloured balls, ballot-balls may be dropped into separate "yes" or "no" drawers inside the ballot box.

    In some Masons' lodges, a black cube is used instead of a black ball so that a black ball can be differentiated from a dirty white ball, as the lighting in the meeting hall is very dim during voting.[3]

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