foreman prime vs klitschko(w) prime

[huhwah**]

I personally think foreman was the hardest hitting boxer in history. He dominated his opponents with his size, jab, and excellent technique. Not unlike Wlad Klitschko is currently doing. They fought opponents, often smaller than themselves and lacking in reach and power, who they could keep at bay, dismantle or overpower.

But if these fighters, in their primes, would square off who do you see winning? I think klitschko has the superior technique and will win a decision or knock out a worn out foreman.

 

[Athenry04]

I would favour Foreman. Vlad can be hit, and I feel at some point George would land and finish the fight.

 

[HowUDoin]

I'd have to go with Big George in this one

 

[Sinister]

Klitschko does not have more superior technique than young Foreman did. After he fell in love with his power he abandoned a lot of technique, but the Foreman who dismantled Frazier, Chuvalo, and Norton does the same to Wlad.

Bye the way, I'd rank Julian Jackson above George in-terms of raw punching power.

 

[Gorgo]

One of Foreman's power jabs, that alot of people tend to forget he had,would have probably ended the fight.

 

[Hester65]

Foreman is a unique fighter in terms of these fantasy match-ups. There really isn't a from any era that will ever be a bad match-up based on the time. Foreman was and still is a genetic freak with underrated boxing skill.

I don't think Klitschko could survive what Foreman brings to the table.

I am more curious to know if Ali could have defeated Foreman without Foreman gassing himself then I am to see if Foreman could be "X" fighter....

 

[sambam]

wlad would get ktfo in 3 rounds. vitali might make it 6 or 7. george is on another planet to these guys.

 

[Sinister]

Foreman is a unique fighter in terms of these fantasy match-ups. There really isn't a from any era that will ever be a bad match-up based on the time. Foreman was and still is a genetic freak with underrated boxing skill.

I don't think Klitschko could survive what Foreman brings to the table.

I am more curious to know if Ali could have defeated Foreman without Foreman gassing himself then I am to see if Foreman could be "X" fighter....

Even a more mobile Ali who didn't just stand and absorb was a bad style match for George. People often forget what Ali had that made him great...arguably the best footwork in Heavyweight History, fast hands, the ability to use a ring, angles, exceptional defense, better pop than remembered, and when you finally did pin him down for a Fight, he was tough as nails. This is every ingredient I'd want to beat a guy like Foreman, even the seemingly unstoppable young version, fresh or not.

 

[Gorgo]

If Foreman wouldn't have taken the bait for the "Ropeadope" Ali would have probably stuck and moved for the victory. Maybe not ko'ed Foreman but in my opinion would have got the dec.

Now if Foreman 1.0 had the mental mindset of 2.0 I think he could have taken Ali or any other fighter of any era.

Foreman is a hard matchup for 99.8% of all HW, the .2 being Holmes and Ali.

But I'm a Big George fan so I'm biased.

 

[huhwah**]

hehe thanks for your replies, I always thought of Foreman as the biggest talent in boxing but without the intelligence of a genius like Ali, or the simple destructive anger of Tyson. If he came along today, with the right trainers and gameplan, I could see him give either klitschko a run for their money and probably win the K.O.

 

[Tony Manifold]

The thing that would win this fight for foreman would be his chin. You could hit that guy with a brick and he could keep coming. There is no way that Wlad could avoid his power all night and eventually he would get crumpled. Big george was a good boxer but he was also a bully who would use his power to wear you down. He had pretty soldi defense as well.

His little one two that koed moorer was a great example of how easy it was for foreman to knock people the fuck out.

 

[McGarnicle**]

Young Foreman is on and off. At times, he has a ram rod jab and moves on the ball of his feet and box like when he fought Chuvalo. He has boxing skills... However, there are times when he goes batshit crazy, balls out with a shitty gameplan and proceeds to chop you down with power punches. He's on and off.

But at 6'4 and near 7 foot reach, neither Wlad or Vitali could keep him bay. Add to that, he has damn near every punch in his arsenal to utilize and physical strength to boot. He would rape Wlad early with his raw strength and tenacity and brutalize Vitali late.

 

[high right kick]

hehe thanks for your replies, I always thought of Foreman as the biggest talent in boxing but without the intelligence of a genius like Ali, or the simple destructive anger of Tyson. If he came along today, with the right trainers and gameplan, I could see him give either klitschko a run for their money and probably win the K.O.

waddya talking about afro foreman was a very very angry man. my favorite non created character to use in fnr4.

 

[webeballin]

If Foreman wouldn't have taken the bait for the "Ropeadope" Ali would have probably stuck and moved for the victory. Maybe not ko'ed Foreman but in my opinion would have got the dec.

I'm not so sure a 32 year old Ali who's legs pretty much abandoned him during the second half of the second Norton could have really moved around all that much with someone like a prime foreman who was quite excellent in cutting off a ring

Even a more mobile Ali who didn't just stand and absorb was a bad style match for George. People often forget what Ali had that made him great...arguably the best footwork in Heavyweight History, fast hands, the ability to use a ring, angles, exceptional defense, better pop than remembered, and when you finally did pin him down for a Fight, he was tough as nails. This is every ingredient I'd want to beat a guy like Foreman, even the seemingly unstoppable young version, fresh or not.

Not to mention a right hand lead

 

[Sinister]

Well, fast hands and more pop than people gave him credit for covered the lead right and his left hook.

 

[Tony Manifold]

I'm not so sure a 32 year old Ali who's legs pretty much abandoned him during the second half of the second Norton could have really moved around all that much with someone like a prime foreman who was quite excellent in cutting off a ring

I got to agree with you. but that was what made the ropeadope so brilliant. He accepted his limitations and changed his game to suit. Foreman also did this in his late career. The cross arms guard he used was basically because he had to absorb every punch because he had no legs to speak of at that point.

This IMO is what seperates the greats from the merely really good. The best example I can give, is that Air jordan became jumpshot jordan and still managed to be the best player in the NBA.

 

[Existentialist]

I'd pick Vitali just because I think he's the better Klitschko. Vitali vs Foreman? Anything I say will be grounded on nothing.

 

[Hammer Time]

foreman swings with his left foreman swings with his right, look at young foreman carry the fight. Foreman could do anything the klitschko bros can do in the ring but they lack his destructive power and most importantly chin.

 

[mmanut]

Wlad has been dropped by much lighter hitting guys than Foreman and that tells me that this would be a very short night for him. Wlad has the better jab and the tighter punches but Foreman was deceptively fast, very adept at taking the center of the ring and cutting his man off, and he could take and deliver a much heavier punch.

I think Wlad goes to the jab early to set up the cross and gets countered with one of Foreman's wrecking ball overhands over the top. And no, he doesn't get back up.

 

[!SavageHenry]

all he needs is to land one grazing shot and wlad's chin will do the rest