Forecasting the race for the House

waiguoren said:
I like the way you think.

I am but one man. Silver has a sprawling organization behind him. I went undefeated vs. his team on four races last time, and I'm extremely confident I could do that again. However, you're now talking about 435 near-simultaneous races. If I had a team of three sharp tacks I could pull this off for sure.

The bet I have in mind is a simple Dem/Rep seat tally for the House. I think I can get closer to the true tally than Silver can.
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Puttin the ol Proprietary Model to work again, I see.
Don't just settle for a seat tally. Let's open er up and see what she can do.
 
BoxingFan653 said:
Yes. I don’t see any of that happening. We had 8 years of Obama and Obama care was shit, my student loan interest kept rising and I saw no improvements.

I did see a lot of crying over spilled milk from the left though which pretty much cemented me never voting for them again
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Yeah zero improvements to healthcare besides expanding coverage to 20 million more Americans, allowing those with pre-existing conditions to actually get coverage, and reducing the number of bankruptcies related to medical expenses (among the leading causes of bankruptcies). And in what manner did your student loan interest keep rising?
 
waiguoren said:
What type of student debt reform do you support?
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Increased public service forgiveness programs as opposed to the current efforts to gut them. Reintroduce student consumer protections towards for profit universities that have been stripped by DeVos. Free community college tuition. And increased regulation relating to the securtitization of student debt because we all saw how well securitization worked with mortgages now didn't we?

And all that is just baby step stuff. But the 1.5 trillion in student loans we've got is an anchor in the economy as it delays the ability for otherwise working productive individuals from doing things like purchasing homes, cars, having children. And that's the people with degrees that get them jobs. Let alone those with 80,000 in debt for a degree that gives them no real prospects.

It's also a powder keg for the same reasons mortgages were in 2008.
 
ScottE said:
Increased public service forgiveness programs as opposed to the current efforts to gut them. Reintroduce student consumer protections towards for profit universities that have been stripped by DeVos. Free community college tuition. And increased regulation relating to the securtitization of student debt because we all saw how well securitization worked with mortgages now didn't we?

And all that is just baby step stuff. But the 1.5 trillion in student loans we've got is an anchor in the economy as it delays the ability for otherwise working productive individuals from doing things like purchasing homes, cars, having children. And that's the people with degrees that get them jobs. Let alone those with 80,000 in debt for a degree that gives them no real prospects.

It's also a powder keg for the same reasons mortgages were in 2008.
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Why should taxpayers foot the bill for people who ran up personal debt?
 
waiguoren said:
Why should taxpayers foot the bill for people who ran up personal debt?
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Yeah the only thing that I suggested that's even remotely akin to that is public service debt forgiveness. So in that respect taxpayers should foot the bill because people are providing a public service by taking needed jobs in communities they otherwise wouldn't. Who would have thought, taxes utilized in the service of the public.

But overall do you think it is even remotely sustainable to have a system in place in which education, which in some form is necessary for functional participation in the workforce, in many instances requires debt that inhibits full participation in the economy?
 
And if you're actually upset about taxpayers footing the bill on education you should look no further then DeVos who's outright eliminating any standards that for profit universities are held to in relation to the job marketability of their degrees. But I guess that's to be expected since Trump had is name on one of those.
 
waiguoren said:
I like the way you think.

I am but one man. Silver has a sprawling organization behind him. I went undefeated vs. his team on four races last time, and I'm extremely confident I could do that again. However, you're now talking about 435 near-simultaneous races. If I had a team of three sharp tacks I could pull this off for sure.

The bet I have in mind is a simple Dem/Rep seat tally for the House. I think I can get closer to the true tally than Silver can.
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Excuses, excuses. What I hear is that after near 2 years of talking shit you are not going to step up now.
 
waiguoren said:
Nice goading skillz. Remind me of your record against me?
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0-1, of course anyone can get lucky once. Here I am will to bet my account after losing to you. Here you are, backing away. Not even offering a change to the bet if it is just to much work for you.
 
m52nickerson said:
0-1, of course anyone can get lucky once. Here I am will to bet my account after losing to you. Here you are, backing away. Not even offering a change to the bet if it is just to much work for you.
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Choose four House races for November. I will beat Silver again over four races exactly as I did in 2016 for four states. When I beat Silver again, I will take your account.
 
waiguoren said:
Choose four House races for November. I will beat Silver again over four races exactly as I did in 2016 for four states. When I beat Silver again, I will take your account.
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Now this is getting interesting! I appreciate the skin in the game.
 
waiguoren said:
Choose four House races for November. I will beat Silver again over four races exactly as I did in 2016 for four states. When I beat Silver again, I will take your account.
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No, you are going to have to beat him across the board this time...not just get lucky.
 
m52nickerson said:
No, you are going to have to beat him across the board this time...not just get lucky.
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Lol, this reeks of cowardice. Dont be scared, homie, take the 4-race bet. He just got lucky the first time, right? You've got him right where you want him.

Are you Brazilian, by chance?
 
JamesRussler said:
Like I said, 0% chance Dems seize control of the House. No doubt about it.
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Dems take the House with ease.
People thought Obama was polarizing, Trump is 2x that. So he'll definitely receive the 1st midterm opposition swing and lose the house.

And no i won't sig bet you because you're shit troll account isn't even worth acknowledging or validating with any kind of bet.

You might not be here by November anyway.
Well maybe your 3rd or 4th account will be.

JamesRussler said:
If the Left really wants to cater to “abolish ICE voters,” they may do so, but they will forfeit many voters who would otherwise vote Democrat.
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You're making sweeping generalizations about the DNCs platform as a whole because of what you see on Fox, Breitbart and Daily Caller/Wire.

What you need to be worried about is all the regulation cutbacks Trump has made to environmental protections for people & animals.
Cutting regulations on banks which he said he wouldn't do.
Banks are still in the doghouse because of the financial collapse.
The separation of migrant children from their parents.
Conservatives with morals being turned off by Trumps cheating on his pregnant wife, dealing with porn stars.

Whatever you assume some fringe extreme of the left will turn away from some Democrats will be gained back by attracting dissatisfied Conservatives.
A midterm is an easy protest vote to stick it to Trump.
A Conservative can send a message to Trump without having to worry about affecting the Supreme Court.
 
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