? for Greco Roman wrestlers

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  1. Q mystic

    Q mystic Silver Belt

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    How many reps do you guys usually do for practising throws? For example, head and arms and whatnot, can you guys give me an example of your drills and example of a practise night? For throws. Thanks.
     
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    From my days in Greco-Roman I can tell you we did series of 10 throws performed very quickly. On the other hand the bad thing was that those were shoulder throws 90% of the time.
     
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    How many 'in and outs' in one evening for instance? And throwing drills, what are yours like?
     
  4. Rory McDonell

    Rory McDonell Green Belt Professional Fighter

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    we do 20-30 mins of technique at the start of practice. If we're working on a specific throw we'll do it over and over. I remember my coach having me do over 100 over under throws in a row.
    Other typical drills that we'll do are Olympic lifts (Karelins famous throw) up and over the shoulder, and then put the guy back on all fours. And pummeling drills. We pummle for position with no throws for 6 minutes (the length of a match) 3-4 times.
    we'll also scrimage situations. and this matches. hope this helps, any more specific questions?
     
  5. Q mystic

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    Yes, it does. 100? Complete throws?

    And, any form of resistance? Like, in judo we had a 3rd holding the belt to prevent completion of the throw.
     
  6. Rory McDonell

    Rory McDonell Green Belt Professional Fighter

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    yeah, it sucked. Over unders aren't high amplitude throws, and they're pretty easy on the victim, so it was hard but not dangerous. also they're harder if you don't complete them. arms spins are the same idea. head and arm throws we don't go all the way through.
    do you mind me asking why you're asking about the Greco?
     
  7. Q mystic

    Q mystic Silver Belt

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    Just comparing the 2 regarding stand up training. How many in and outs in a typical nite?

    You getting drunk? j/k.:) Tourny for u in 36 hours.

    Have u decided on which division?

    And, what resistance do you guys do? Doing no-gi and looking for ideas.
     
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    killer_kicks88 Green Belt

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    can someone explain an over under throw? pics maybe?
     
  9. Q mystic

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    Hip throw. One arm over his and one under behind.
     
  10. Rory McDonell

    Rory McDonell Green Belt Professional Fighter

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    sorry, you'll have to explain what you mean by in and outs. and in terms of resistance, do you mean weight training? or intensity of your training partner resisting what you're doing?
     
  11. Q mystic

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    For, say, head and arm, just going in to where you would lift, then out and repeat at speed. You do 10, I do 10, you do 10... for total.

    Resistance as, in judo, we would try to throw the opponent when some guy has his belt from behind to increase resistance. What do you guys do no-gi? I would just think hold hips.

    Also do you guys do the throw without partner, in air, and toss over yourselves to breakfall?
     
  12. Rory McDonell

    Rory McDonell Green Belt Professional Fighter

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    we call them speed drills, and we use them as an exhaustion drill at the end of practice. We'll do six minutes of high speed no resistance throws, back and forth with a partner. Then immediately do 6 sets of 10 speed drills (one partner doing 10 at a time), a different throw or takedown for each set.
    We don't really do anything in terms of resistive technique. We have technique, and scrimmage and weights. The closest thing would probably be medicine ball throws. We practice back arching throws by tossing a medicine ball back over our shoulder as we arch back into a bridge.

    as for the tourney, I'm going to go no-gi intermediate. Its my first tourney ever, so I want to make sure that its at least a learning experience. If I do well, then next time I'll bump up to advanced.
     
  13. Q mystic

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    That was what I was looking for. Sounds similar to judo. Thanks.

    No-gi intermediate sounds good.

    Not to piss you off but in no-gi intermediate I predict 4-8 fighters. No-gi advanced I predict 20-30 fighters.

    1st one and you will love it. Opens things up.

    Good luck. What will you be wearing and I'll cheer you on?

    PS- if you fight any judoka, pull them in close.:)
     
  14. pitviper259

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    just to add something real quick, when i did greco, we trained alot of the "lifts" that were described earlier by rory and also we trained how to "pop" or hips using a partner not really throws just how to get your hips in to make a throw work and more importantly work your bridge. Just so you know what im talking about ill give a description of one exercise we used to do......

    1. Start facing a partner and basically shake hands
    2. One partner steps up pops and arches back and lets his head hit the mat
    3. The way you know your doing it right is if you land on your head and it doesnt hurt (lol)

    basically land on your shoulders or the top of your head as you practice this, since your holding someones hand you cant really hurt yourself dropping too hard, but do about 100 of these and i promise you and your partner will have a great workout
     
  15. Gaylon Cooper

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    During technique we would go over each like gut wrench, reverse body lift, belly-to-belly and belly-to-backs into a 8-inch throw mat to work on high amplitude throws During scrimmage we would only be allow to use the technique we where shown for the day for a period of time. Then during conditioning we would do low amplitude for hundred times each like over and under and head and arm (25 then switch). You learn a lot when you are cranking out moves as fast as you can go when you are exhausted. It is one thing that helped me with explosive hip power.
     

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