For girls who have good genes, will deadlifts make their backs too big?

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  1. stylesbjj**

    stylesbjj** Banned Banned

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    For girls who have good genes, will deadlifts make their backs too big?

    I am helping this girl get into strength training. Her concern is that she doesn't want to have her upperbody get too big (lower body is fine). Normally, even if a guy would ask me this question, I would just scoff at them. However, this girl seems to have very good genetics. She already seems naturally muscular; she currently concerned that her upperbody is already kinda too bulky (I don't think so :icon_chee).

    Our current plan is to go hard on hip and leg movements. And the deadlift is essentially a hip movement, but it also does wonders for the whole back because the back responds very well to isometric work. Thus giving the deadlift the title 'kind of the back exercises'.

    So would a person need to do back movements (rows, pullups) in order to develop back growth. Or would deadlifts alone stimulate back growth in someone with good genes. :confused:
     
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    Unless you post some pictures (haha), than we cannot be really sure. Even then...it would hard to tell just how well she will respond to training. Still, I'm incline to say no. Girls have what...1/10 the testosterone of men? And unless you have some freaky genetics/ drugs...putting on mass is not the easiest thing in the world, even for guys.
     
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    ninjajesus Banned Banned

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    I wish I had a gene that gave me muscles for nothing.
     
  4. Brad Morris

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    Deadlifts are going to hit the posterior chain, but I would still incorperate rows, and chins into the program.

    Muscle balance is an important factor in training, deadlifts alone will not stimulate the lats and other muscles of the upper back such as the rhomboids like chins and rows will.

    If you are doing shoulder and bench movements then to neglect upper back work will lead to muscle imbalance and injury.
     
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    Well, according to evolution, proper genes for a woman is "curvy" and "short" (compared to a man). Usually female who can build large muscles and have an aggressive mindset have extra testosterone. I do not hold a degree in Kinesiology, however, I would say that she will build much more muscle then your average female.
     
  6. Chris Beeby

    Chris Beeby Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    Have her pull sumo.

    It'll give her a better ass/hammies, and as most woman have stronger hips, she'll feel more progression.

    This is purely opinion, I have no science/personal experience to draw from.
     
  7. Standard

    Standard Too dumb to learn, too stubborn to quit

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    No one ever got too big accidently by lifting... ever. If it was that easy to just get huge then every gym wouldn't be rammed full of guys busting their asses everyday trying to grow and failing.


    Just to be safe though the pics would help :icon_chee
     
  8. Sean O Deere

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    tell her to eat less.... no, seriously
     
  9. Tamil

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    Hm, I would have to say no, not really. My personal experience, I am more defined in my top-half than my bottom-half. Sleeves are bit tighter than they used to, but my upper body is not 'too big.' It really is difficult for us women to try building muscles that'd make us look too big, due to the fraction of testosterone we have compared to men as well as estrogen trying to dictate our shape. She'll be fine.

    If you can, try to get her to open a log here :).
     
  10. Old Man

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    Come on, you've been lifting long enough to know the answer to that question. If she gets a big back on a fraction of the testosterone I have in my body, please post her secrets.
     
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  12. vince89

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    Yeh I find it almost insulting that people think theyre going to get 'big' almost accidentally while Ive been busting my ass for 6 months to put on weight and havent really achieved anything significant.
     
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    I had to stop doing bicep curls because I accidentally got 20" arms and none of my shirt sleeves fit.
     
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    She is going to develop a muscular back if she is doing heavy deadlifts and eating alot of food. I don't see why not wanting to get muscular would stop someone from getting muscular. I lift weights to get stronger, and I eat food to recover and get stronger. I don't really care if I get bigger, but I am bigger. Doesn't that mean I accidentally got bigger?
     
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    thanks for the reply guys. I will recommend those deadlifts.

    Good genes. She was offered a full ride ride to play soccer at a university with a prestigious sports program. She refused it and decided to study instead.
     
  16. Joe Funaro

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    I dont think its possible for you to look at a girl and decide she has good genes. In fact I hate when people talk about good genes. You cant tell.

    A fat nasty disgusting guy could have great genetic potential and never use it.

    People say I have good genes and that others have them. No, were just not lazy.

    But if she has Levis or American Eagle, then yeah, those are good genes.

    Tell her to squat and deadlift so she gets a nice bum.
     
  17. Joe Funaro

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    Stupid forum
     
  18. erco

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    Are you fucking joking?

    Good genes = high test? Good at soccer = high test?


    If she lays off the winstrol, she won't get a gigantic back. It's just not going to happen. Unless she's hiding a cock somewhere or is one of those mutant XY females, she won't get "too big."
     
  19. stylesbjj**

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    Clam down :icon_chee

    I already stated that I have decided to recommend the deadlifts. And she already considers her upper body too muscular. And getting a full ride to a prestigious soccer program isn't just good at soccer, thats pretty fuckin' athletic. Also, I also came to the conclusion that she has a good genes based on she is naturally muscular (she really didn't workout a lot in college).

    If you want to debate whether on not this constitutes as 'good genes' go for it, I don't care. The bottom line is that she will probably put on muscle a lot easier than most females.
     
  20. Ian Coe

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    Its true, he's a real runt of the litter

    Eat more skinny
     

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