Food that is assumed to be healthy but isn't really

[Foppa21]

Hi all,

Apologies for what might be a somewhat cryptic title (mods please feel free to change).

But are there any foods that are perceived to be healthy that really aren't. I get that if I'm buying food at a food court odds on, it's not going to be as clean as if I make it myself.

End goal: I have 9 weeks to diet off about 10-12 lbs. I'm currently a chubby 135lbs.

Diet isn't as clean clean as I'd like in that I don't eat anywhere near as regularly as I should so my portion sizes can be a bit out of whack. My work requires me to travel so I'm never really set in a location and there can be 12 hr days. If I'm actually in my office, I'm right next to a supermarket so if I need a snack, I can wander over to get some fruit.

But on most days, I'll have to go find me some lunch at a food court type place. What's usually a somewhat acceptable choice. I try to stick to what people call healthy options, but I'm not quite sold. My usual choices are:

* Sushi (I try to avoid a katsu type)
* Chicken salad (with humus and tomato sauce). At one of the places I frequent, it tastes too good to be healthy. I think they load up on sodium in the chicken marinade prior to grilling. But assuming there's less sodium
* Naked burrito. So a burrito without the wrap. I take it without sour cream

 

[lts5025]

What exactly is your question?

 

[McBryde Mats LLC]

Canola oil was a great example of this

 

[Foppa21]

What exactly is your question?

Apologies, thoughts of a rambler on the run. I guess what I'm getting at is what has been the things that people have been harping on to be healthy but at the end of the day, aren't really with a particular emphasis on them being a snack.

I guess another one I heard through the years for MacDonalds salads when they actually brought them out here in NZ. Healthy in theory, until he dressing was slathered on top.

What are the throughts on cornflakes? I just considering good ole Kelloggs cornflakes (not the obviously sugared up options like frosties).

Also the other caveat I think is that everything is ok in moderation

 

[1PBCE1]

Fruit juice

 

[Seriously-Dead]

Fruit juice

Real fruit juice is perfectly fine. OJ is extremely nutrient dense, and has been shown to inhibit endotoxin formation from high fat meals.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/91/4/940.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20067961
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1971/2

 

[D Train]

Salads. They CAN be healthy, but not the way most people eat them.
I actually had some grilled vegetables the other day only to realize later they had 17g of fat, presumably from the oil they were cooked in. That one frustrated me.

 

[j123]

Rice cakes?

 

[Demogoblin]

im changing the convo but i dont like how people say all bread is bad or all carbs are bad people who preach about diets are worse than JOV's some bread is bad white bread and rye bread
whole wheat bread and ezquell bread is good .. for crying out loud jesus ate whole wheat bread and he wasnt fat not in the least .. '' all bread is bad" morons

 

[j123]

im changing the convo but i dont like how people say all bread is bad or all carbs are bad people who preach about diets are worse than JOV's some bread is bad white bread and rye bread
whole wheat bread and ezquell bread is good .. for crying out loud jesus ate whole wheat bread and he wasnt fat not in the least .. '' all bread is bad" morons

Yeah that stuff's outdated, but still carries weight for some reason

 

[Foppa21]

im changing the convo but i dont like how people say all bread is bad or all carbs are bad people who preach about diets are worse than JOV's some bread is bad white bread and rye bread
whole wheat bread and ezquell bread is good .. for crying out loud jesus ate whole wheat bread and he wasnt fat not in the least .. '' all bread is bad" morons

I'm with you on that one. If it's all white then yeah... I only recently switched to whole grain after making all sorts of excuses my whole life on why I only ate white bread. Not that I ate/eat a whole bunch of bread anyways.

Jesus was a carpenter/tradie. He probably worked off the excess even if he did eat white bread lol

 

[Demogoblin]

Yeah that stuff's outdated, but still carries weight for some reason

either way you need carbs a carb free diet not only does it not most of the time work its dangerous to your health you can get ketossis and you can just pass out .. carbs feed your brain ... a lot of people preach that all carbs are bad but there are good carbs and bad carbs like the whole wheat bread with the wheat germ speaking of germs not all germs are bad some germs actually keep us alive

 

[Demogoblin]

Yeah that stuff's outdated, but still carries weight for some reason

I'm with you on that one. If it's all white then yeah... I only recently switched to whole grain after making all sorts of excuses my whole life on why I only ate white bread. Not that I ate/eat a whole bunch of bread anyways.

Jesus was a carpenter/tradie. He probably worked off the excess even if he did eat white bread lol

i dont think they had white bread in those days or any bread that had sugar in in it probably why you didnt hear people in the bible complaining about cavities

 

[Foppa21]

either way you need carbs a carb free diet not only does it not most of the time work its dangerous to your health you can get ketossis and you can just pass out .. carbs feed your brain ... a lot of people preach that all carbs are bad but there are good carbs and bad carbs like the whole wheat bread with the wheat germ speaking of germs not all germs are bad some germs actually keep us alive

I'm trying to cut way down on my carbs. Once in awhile, I'll have something flat out carb loaded or sugary just for my own sanity.

 

[Demogoblin]

I'm trying to cut way down on my carbs. Once in awhile, I'll have something flat out carb loaded or sugary just for my own sanity.

portion size fist full of carb six meals
a fist with six see how it rythms?

dont listen to these jov preachers that say carbs are bad maybe they lost weight that way but that is them a carb free diet is not meant for everyone and there still is a lot of fat in certain proteins like egg yolks bacon

a lot of times people on pure protein diets end up eating protein with the fat to fuel their body so they do a protein and fat diet



i think a protein and carb diet is better than a protein and fat diet

in the movie the seven deadly sins didnt he feed that guy protein introvensensely and that guy ended up having a body made of out of wax

okay i need to stop im hijacking this thread

but to be crude no whole wheat and eskequel bread will not put on weight because they will help you make more dodies

stimulants like tea will make you shit more but only for a certain period of time then your body builds a tolerance like i take to take adderall and it made me thin alittle less than a decade ago but that doesnt work anymore lol after i reach 32 my body produced fat cells regardles of the body- speeding metabolism drug ;adderall

 

[Snackattack]

a lot of times people on pure protein diets end up eating protein with the fat to fuel their body so they do a protein and fat diet



i think a protein and carb diet is better than a protein and fat diet

Why though? So as someone that's on a LCHF diet here's the idea, you switch to fats because you tend to have less swings in terms of energy. I feel like when I was on carb / protein you always have to carbo-load before a really hard workout, then you crash. I've never really experienced 'crashes' on LCHF.

Am I saying this is for everyone? Fuck no.

But I know you're kind of bullshitting through your 'knowledge' when you say things like...

carbs feed your brain

Yeah no that's not how it works.

either way you need carbs a carb free diet not only does it not most of the time work its dangerous to your health you can get ketossis and you can just pass out

Also what the fuck?? What? I've been on sub 20 carbs a day for over a year now. The only real carbs your body needs 100% is dietary fiber which isn't even counter in the net carb calculation as your body doesn't process it. I've had days where I have zero net carbs and trained for 4 hours. Not passing out yet buddy. Not sure where you're getting any of this information from, but it's kind of just... wrong?

Not saying all bread is bad or anything... But your analysis on this diet being wrong should not involve any discussion over my own personal use of this diet. You talk about 'going into ketosis' It's not like a switch flips and BAM. It's more like, your body just naturally produces ketones which process fat instead of carbs as fuel. The difference being that normally your pancreas produces insulin which is just a hormone that processes / digests sugar and carbs in general.

Bread being a complex carb makes your pancreus produce insulin to process it into fuel at a steadier rate. Bread / starches is one of the best / healthiest sources of carbs for sure. Sugar is what's actually going to cause serious crashes and health problems.

But again, your information is bad. Not even defending the diet / pushing it, just, stop posting bullshit you don't know anything about just because you're annoyed with people pushing low carb diets.

 

[Credo]

Rice cakes?

This. A lot of them cantains arsenic.

 

[Badger67]

So does rice milk.

 

[YugoKing]

Gotta read the ingrediens list. In restaurants to lose weight order grilled stead of fried.

Soups could be full of fat you gotta taste it which is impossible to be accurate.

Salad with virgin olive oil instead of white dressings.

No white bread.

 

[Steveston]

Soy Milk, makes males produce estrogen.