flying elbow strike - useful?

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  1. Vovchanchyn Fan

    Vovchanchyn Fan Green Belt

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    I'm wondering if people have utilized flying elbows at all either in training or streetfights?

    I have trained it for some time, but never actually found much use for it yet..but was thinking perhaps it might be a nice lead in into a thai clinch.

    Anyway, appreciate any feedback on your experience with it. As a strike, have you found it effective or just superfluous?
     
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    i havent fought under rules where i could throw elbows..... but thye superman punch works well for me\, so i guess the elbow would as well.
     
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    Wouldn't a flying elbow be where both feet come off the ground, not like a superman punch?
     
  4. Vovchanchyn Fan

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    Correct, flying elbow is launched by jumping into the air, and coming down with the elbow either to top of head or collar bone. Basically dropping your body weight onto them via the elbow.

    I have been researching it on the web, here's a photo of a flying elbow from what actually looks like an interesting movie called "Ong Bak", featuring a muay thai fighter.

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    If you have about 12 minutes to spare, this bar fight scene shows some nice MT work including 1 or 2 flying elbows:
    http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1132136883/Ong-Bak_Awesome_fight_club_scene


    Thanks for any feedback.
     
  5. Richard Emling

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    if landed any elbow is usefull
     
  6. DCmoney

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    Absolutely! Just look at the results of MArvin Eastman's last couple of fights. Stopped due to TKO from cut suffered from Flying elbow. You are vulnerable to a double leg takedown, but the damage you can dish out is incredible. Use that front hand to shield your opponents face, and then reign down HELL, in the form of an elbow.
     
  7. Vovchanchyn Fan

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    Very cool, thanks for this info! I'm 6'4", so I'm looking forward to integrating this into my combos.
     
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    it's very effective, but a bit risky to use in mma.
     
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    didnt polar bear use that technic in first ufcs vs that marine dude knock him out
     
  11. BigDog

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    NOPE wouldnt use it
     
  12. -V-MuayThai-V-

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    Ong-Bak is so fucking sick... he has some awesome fights, and does insane stunts... I highly recommend it. You should see the chase scene in that movie, he's doing backflips and sliding under cars like nothing, Jackie Chan aint got shit on this guy.

    Oh yea, sorry, elbows, I don't really know, I just felt like talking about how cool ong-bak is.
     
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    Ong bak is the name of the movie, not the character. The actor's American name is Tony Jaa.
     
  14. Soulfly

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    I've actually seen a Ramon Dekker highlight where he delivers a double flying elbow strike onto the opponent's neck / collarbone region in the clinch range.

    It sure looked like it hurt.
     
  15. Vovchanchyn Fan

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    You're right, Tony Jaa is amazing. I got to buy the DVD....here's a great music vid from it:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5123118953949658116&q=ong+bak
     
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    I don't think that was a flying elbow, I'm pretty sure he wrapped his legs around the guys waist and came down with the elbows, still extremely cool though. As for the flying elbow, I think it could be pretty effective on not so experienced fighters, but it is pretty telegraphed and a good fighter could probably move and counter you. It would work well though if you can get someone shelling up going backwards though, but if you have your opponent shelled up, anything can be effective.
     
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    I agree that getting them pedaling backwards is a good setup - I use a palm pop to the forehead a lot to setup single legs (MMA rules), and that might be a good way to set this up since it shifts their weight backwards for a split second.

    I'm also thinking now of using it more in the sense of perhaps a jumping overhand elbow instead of the true flying elbow. Example: I like how in this clip the guy hooked the opponents arm and then used that to lever a jumping elbow into him, so this is probably a higher % shot....I'd rather hit the jaw anyway since much higher ko likelihood instead of bopping the top of their head:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5620011587316662292&q=muay+thai
     
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    Bullshit.

    I'd go for the flying knee, and whether or not it landed, I'd be coming down elbow first.

    And yes, Dekker flying elbows the shit out of people.
     
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    i bet a flying elbow would work well in the pool
     
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