Oh that's interesting why do you say thatMy premiums seemed wider like mentioned above. I think you would like the 1V1s. I just got another pair today. They are definitely my favorite training glove. They are better for the bag than for sparring in my opinion.
They are a lot more stiff than Winning and Fly and the padding isn't nearly is soft. You could use them for sparring, they would just require some breaking in.Oh that's interesting why do you say that
Damn I really want that old type design for sparring
Would the ptes or horse hairs be better for sparringThey are a lot more stiff than Winning and Fly and the padding isn't nearly is soft. You could use them for sparring, they would just require some breaking in.
Yeah see these fly xs and premiums look a lot closer then my fly xs and premiums this is a really good comparisonThis is a good discussion going on, which perhaps I hope I can help further along.
FLY X (red) from Dec. 2019 and FLY Genuine Leather (stock item in blue and white) from March 2020.
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Yeah see these fly xs and premiums look a lot closer then my fly xs and premiums this is a really good comparison
How is the softness of the padding between the two
Jesus so they're even softer then my fly x's? Same colour as my premiums tooThe Genuine leather FLY Superlace gloves are quite softer (most notably, I can tell it's much easier to open up my hand to catch/parry shots), but the FLY X are pretty soft as well. This could be due in part due to the synthetic material not giving/flexing as much upon impact as the genuine leather.
If I'm not mistaken, these red FLY X gloves were purchased on the 2nd batch release FLY had on their X-line (their initial release sold out pretty quickly), back when a mini-clip was used on the Knight (cheek protector) headgear.
I haven't used the horsehair, but I'm pretty sure the horsehair only come in 10 and 12 oz. So the PTEs are going to be better for sparring.Would the ptes or horse hairs be better for sparring
Not gonna lie I screwed up. I meant to say for bag workI haven't used the horsehair, but I'm pretty sure the horsehair only come in 10 and 12 oz. So the PTEs are going to be better for sparring.
They are a lot more stiff than Winning and Fly and the padding isn't nearly is soft. You could use them for sparring, they would just require some breaking in.
Hey Tmac!
Couple of questions if you wouldn't mind:
Regarding fly:
Were the people who's flys wore out in a year or two x line or premiums? Also they were the older softer ones not the stiffer new ones?
Regarding 1v1:
How long have you had 1v1s? Which models and what weights?
Would you say the 12oz ptes would be the best gloves for bags and pads that money could buy. Or would there be a better optionI prefer Winning to Fly myself. I've never worn a more comfortable, protective sparring glove. Probably my overall favorite brand with 1V1 being a close second. I used my 16oz PTEs for a few months before I sold them. I would say my 10 and 12 oz gloves are a compact glove but very comfortable. The 10 oz are my go to glove for bags and mitts. I probably have 60-70 rounds in them and they seem to get better and better each time I hit the bag.
In my opinion, yes. They provide excellent feedback while also giving you great protection. A lot of people like the horsehair version but I haven't used them. My worry with horsehair gloves is that they tend to break down faster than foam gloves.Would you say the 12oz ptes would be the best gloves for bags and pads that money could buy. Or would there be a better option
That was my assumption. I'm just wondering if it's worth it. Considering how good my current flys are for bags. If the ptes would be betterIn my opinion, yes. They provide excellent feedback while also giving you great protection. A lot of people like the horsehair version but I haven't used them. My worry with horsehair gloves is that they tend to break down faster than foam gloves.
Interesting to hear that the 10oz are that great for bag work. Was concerned that 12oz would be as low as I could go as 10oz wouldn't have enough knuckle padding. I don't need or like a ton but I don't want to feel me knuckle if I press on the padding. Tried some winning 10oz. and was surprised that I could do that so easily even for a fight glove. I couldn't with 8oz grants for comparison.I prefer Winning to Fly myself. I've never worn a more comfortable, protective sparring glove. Probably my overall favorite brand with 1V1 being a close second. I used my 16oz PTEs for a few months before I sold them. I would say my 10 and 12 oz gloves are a compact glove but very comfortable. The 10 oz are my go to glove for bags and mitts. I probably have 60-70 rounds in them and they seem to get better and better each time I hit the bag.