Flipping Turtle with Hooks In

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Falcyon, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. Falcyon

    Falcyon White Belt

    Dec 2, 2008
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    There's this pretty big guy at the club and I was playing butterfly->arm drag and I immediately went for the harness grip and a hook, and the other hook. Both hooks are in, and I have a harness/seat belt over-under. How do I flip him for back mount without having to take my hooks out? I know of only turnovers from the outside. Or better yet, tips on getting the choke without losing my balance?
  2. BJJsb

    BJJsb White Belt

    Jun 4, 2010
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    I know one technique where you get you're hooks in from the turtle, then get like a full nelson if you can and fall backwards and that makes it easy to flip the guy over. Make sure to fall back at an angle though, you dont want to pop his knees.
  3. MUFC

    MUFC Brown Belt

    Nov 19, 2007
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    You can flip him, but the way I've done it, you don't have the hooks in. If he is turtled and you have over-under + both hooks, just maintain over-under control and smash your hips down to flatten him out. Use your hooks to spread him back.

    Whenever I get 1 hook in + over-under control, I just drag them onto me, keeping my hook as the bottom leg (so, I still need to get the hook on their top leg). Prefer working from there.
  4. Noskill

    Noskill Created Monkey

    Jul 24, 2003
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    In Schrödinger's box
    IMO, if you have both hooks and harness, and he is on all fours, don't flip.

    Being on top is a better position. Press your hips down hard, flatten him, and then work for the choke.

    If he posts hard, hook an arm and go for the armbar.

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