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[jefferz]

The only way to fix this is for American men to start taking estrogen supplements, you should lead the way on this

Who should he lead? You have enough to share with everybody on this board.

 

[Osculater]

- Your gang banges go to school for confronts?

Yes, they are retarded

 

[mkess101]

- I dind't knew your criminals were that cowardly.

Oh 100% they are. They give absolutely zero fucks about innocent bystanders.

It's not that gang bangers necessarily want to hurt innocent people for no reason. It's more that innocent people simply don't matter. They wouldn't kill a random bystander for no reason. But to grab their wallet and a free hundred bucks if they thought they'd get away with it? Absolutely.
Same as firing into a crowd. They aren't TRYING to shoot the random bystanders, they just don't care if they hit them. Human life outside their own is meaningless.

 

[horc00]

Mass shooters? Yes but most had made threats or had known mental problems. In the rare case there was no indicator before they. You are not going to stop some.

However most mass shootings are not school type or that type. They are gangs and criminals. What someone posted there were 48 this year so far. You want to venture a guess what they overwhelming were.

I said “many” not “most”. Just because they aren’t the majority, doesn’t mean they’re few. Different types of shooting demands different types of countermeasures, not whataboutism.

And let’s be honest, gang-related shootings are targeted at rival gangs. Non-gang-related shootings target anyone in their sight. If my kid doesn’t get involved with gangs, or if my kid doesn’t attend school in bad neighbourhoods, I’d be more concerned about the dipshit kid with a fragile ego and gun-loving parents who just got rejected by his crush, than your average gangbangers.

 

[Strychnine]

 

[DoctorTaco]

“I’m going to withhold judgement until more facts come out”

“The left shouldn’t of painted men like this into a corner”

“But antifa”

“Anti-depressants”

 

[oldshadow]

I said “many” not “most”. Just because they aren’t the majority, doesn’t mean they’re few. Different types of shooting demands different types of countermeasures, not whataboutism.

And let’s be honest, gang-related shootings are targeted at rival gangs. Non-gang-related shootings target anyone in their sight. If my kid doesn’t get involved with gangs, or if my kid doesn’t attend school in bad neighbourhoods, I’d be more concerned about the dipshit kid with a fragile ego and gun-loving parents who just got rejected by his crush, than your average gangbangers.

School shootings like you talk about are extremely rare as far as a child being involved in one.

And I ask again what are you proposing to do to prevent them. More security at schools? What new gun laws do you want that you think will prevent this?

 

[Mike]

School shootings like you talk about are extremely rare as far as a child being involved in one.

And I ask again what are you proposing to do to prevent them. More security at schools? What new gun laws do you want that you think will prevent this?

Nobody ever has a real answer in any of these threads. Just moral grandstanding "I don't like crime like you Americans!" kinda emotional bullshit, or "just get rid of the guns" like we got a magical genie sitting around that could even remove all the guns if that's what the American people wanted. Which they don't.


Even if the American people were anti gun, which they aren't and never have been, guns have the support of extremely powerful lobbying groups here. It's just so silly to hear people getting so histrionic like we love people getting murdered. Nobody does, but what the fuck are we supposed to do about it exactly? Mental health here is at crisis levels but nobody wants to address that.

Which would be a hell of a lot easier to try to make some progress on then it would be to.magically get rid of guns here.

 

[oldshadow]

Nobody ever has a real answer in any of these threads. Just moral grandstanding "I don't like crime like you Americans!" kinda emotional bullshit, or "just get rid of the guns" like we got a magical genie sitting around that could even remove all the guns if that's what the American people wanted. Which they don't.


Even if the American people were anti gun, which they aren't and never have been, guns have the support of extremely powerful lobbying groups here. It's just so silly to hear people getting so histrionic like we love people getting murdered. Nobody does, but what the fuck are we supposed to do about it exactly? Mental health here is at crisis levels but nobody wants to address that.

Which would be a hell of a lot easier to try to make some progress on then it would be to.magically get rid of guns here.

I agree but one thing both politicians fail out and our courts fail at is mental heath. The politicians fail at funded and supporting what is needed and the court's fail at putting and keeping people with mental illness off the streets and held for their and certainly society's good. Hell doctors fail when they giclve them some pills and say take these then say they are fine to be released and go about with no supervision at all. They should be like on parole where they have to check in and see if they are still on their meds if they have a violent history of any kind.

 

[Mike]

I agree but one thing both politicians fail out and our courts fail at is mental heath. The politicians fail at funded and supporting what is needed and the court's fail at putting and keeping people with mental illness off the streets and held for their and certainly society's good. Hell doctors fail when they giclve them some pills and say take these then say they are fine to be released and go about with no supervision at all. They should be like on parole where they have to check in and see if they are still on their meds if they have a violent history of any kind.

I grew up back in the 80s which as you know was like the stone ages for mental health. As someone that's struggles in that area myself, I just can't believe we're in goddamn futuristic times and it's not really any better. If anything it's much worse because that sense of community that was there when I was growing up is completely gone now. If you don't have good people around you, nobody is coming to check on you until it's too late.


Still dealing with the survivors guilt a little bit I think, an old friend shot himself in the head last year. So this topic has been on my mind quite a bit recently.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Oh 100% they are. They give absolutely zero fucks about innocent bystanders.

It's not that gang bangers necessarily want to hurt innocent people for no reason. It's more that innocent people simply don't matter. They wouldn't kill a random bystander for no reason. But to grab their wallet and a free hundred bucks if they thought they'd get away with it? Absolutely.
Same as firing into a crowd. They aren't TRYING to shoot the random bystanders, they just don't care if they hit them. Human life outside their own is meaningless.

- It's a totally diferent culture. not that i believe in the nobility of the hearts of criminals. But the logic, is theres pobrably family of other ´people that will search for payback, like another criminals or police.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

“I’m going to withhold judgement until more facts come out”

“The left shouldn’t of painted men like this into a corner”

“But antifa”

“Anti-depressants”

- We get people around of the world in AD's, and still rarelly get any school hooting.

Antifa is a terrorist org full of scammers.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Oh 100% they are. They give absolutely zero fucks about innocent bystanders.

It's not that gang bangers necessarily want to hurt innocent people for no reason. It's more that innocent people simply don't matter. They wouldn't kill a random bystander for no reason. But to grab their wallet and a free hundred bucks if they thought they'd get away with it? Absolutely.
Same as firing into a crowd. They aren't TRYING to shoot the random bystanders, they just don't care if they hit them. Human life outside their own is meaningless.

-0 THis happens here. In SC is more rare, because we'e got the best police force. but in other states, you can die because a team tshirt

 

[650lb Sumo]

Mass shooters? Yes but most had made threats or had known mental problems. In the rare case there was no indicator before they. You are not going to stop some.

However most mass shootings are not school type or that type. They are gangs and criminals. What someone posted there were 48 this year so far. You want to venture a guess what they overwhelming were.

@oldshadow is lying - I've shown him (and everyone who read the threads obviously) the stats showing that most mass shootings are domestic violence-related, and that most mass shooters did not have known mental problems, in the past.

 

[tastaylvr]

lol as soon as it’s not who they expect they pivot to “let’s wait for the facts”

Can’t make this shit up

 

[oldshadow]

@oldshadow is lying - I've shown him (and everyone who read the threads obviously) the stats showing that most mass shootings are domestic violence-related, and that most mass shooters did not have known mental problems, in the past.

Link to this because that's not what I'm seeing but mass shooting is changed by who is calling it that and what they choose to classify as a mass shooting.

What is considered a mass shooting? | USAFacts

The FBI defines an active shooter as an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area, but the definition of mass shooting is less clear.

usafacts.org

What is a mass shooting?​

The term “mass shooting” can refer to firearm-related events with various outcomes depending on which definition is being used.

A 2020 article from the National Institute of Justice Journal notes the challenges that arise from the lack of a single definition of the term “mass shooting.” Its authors claim that research is “hampered by a lack of agreement on definitions of critical terms, such as ‘mass shootings’ and ‘mass murders,’ and by the absence of consistent sources of data on mass shootings.”

Further, they note that “The federal criminal code lacks a distinct mass shooting offense; this may help explain why researchers use different terminology, or types of criminal offense, in their analyses of the same phenomenon.”

The Department of Justice, for example, shared a 2013 analysis of mass shootings that defines them as “any incident in which at least four people are murdered with a gun.”

News reports on the number of mass shootings in the US are likely to reference the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit that defines a mass shooting as an event with a “minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident.” Many media outlets — such as Reuters, CNN, and the Wall Street Journal — reference this definition of mass shooting. According to that tally, the US has experienced nearly 400 mass shootings so far this year.

Now for just gun deaths.

Statistics

Brady is uniting Americans against gun violence. We invite everyone who wants to end our epidemic of gun violence to take action, not sides.

www.bradyunited.org

1%of all gun violence in America.60% of gun deaths are suicide and 37% are homicide — including the 1% of mass shootings. The remaining 3% of gun deaths include law enforcement involved shootings, unintentional shootings, and those that were undetermined.

 

[650lb Sumo]

Link to this because that's not what I'm seeing but mass shooting is changed by who is calling it that and what they choose to classify as a mass shooting.

What is considered a mass shooting? | USAFacts

The FBI defines an active shooter as an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area, but the definition of mass shooting is less clear.

usafacts.org

What is a mass shooting?​

The term “mass shooting” can refer to firearm-related events with various outcomes depending on which definition is being used.

A 2020 article from the National Institute of Justice Journal notes the challenges that arise from the lack of a single definition of the term “mass shooting.” Its authors claim that research is “hampered by a lack of agreement on definitions of critical terms, such as ‘mass shootings’ and ‘mass murders,’ and by the absence of consistent sources of data on mass shootings.”

Further, they note that “The federal criminal code lacks a distinct mass shooting offense; this may help explain why researchers use different terminology, or types of criminal offense, in their analyses of the same phenomenon.”

The Department of Justice, for example, shared a 2013 analysis of mass shootings that defines them as “any incident in which at least four people are murdered with a gun.”

News reports on the number of mass shootings in the US are likely to reference the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit that defines a mass shooting as an event with a “minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident.” Many media outlets — such as Reuters, CNN, and the Wall Street Journal — reference this definition of mass shooting. According to that tally, the US has experienced nearly 400 mass shootings so far this year.

Now for just gun deaths.

Statistics

Brady is uniting Americans against gun violence. We invite everyone who wants to end our epidemic of gun violence to take action, not sides.

www.bradyunited.org

1%of all gun violence in America.60% of gun deaths are suicide and 37% are homicide — including the 1% of mass shootings. The remaining 3% of gun deaths include law enforcement involved shootings, unintentional shootings, and those that were undetermined.

 

[oldshadow]

Still no link.