First UFC Kung Fu champion?

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  1. aries

    aries Silver Belt

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    We've seen the resurgance in terms of respect garnered to Karate since the success of luminaries such as Machida and GSP. And with emerging stars like Connor Mcgregor, Gunnar Nelson and Stephen Wonderboy Thompson the future of karate in MMA looks strong.

    But what about Kung Fu? Isn't it about time we had a Kung Fu stylist in MMA making waves? Well it seems like now we have one, Bellators Michael Page.

    And don't let the karate fan boys try and convince you otherwise, Page was very succesful in karate tournaments but his background is kung fu, Lau Gar to be exact trained by his dad :wink:

    I also predict this guy will be the most hated guy in MMA in the not too distant future for several reasons: 1) hype train 2) extremely cocky showboater 3)stand up specialist 4)british 5)black

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  2. JustinvR

    JustinvR Brown Belt

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    Well, we had Cung Le who was a strikeforce champion, that counts for something i guess.
    Also, i wouldn't really call MVP a Kung Fu, or karate fighter. He has a base in both sports but his style is freestyle kickboxing with a lot of flash.

    So fucking true lol.
     
  3. aries

    aries Silver Belt

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    You're right. I am being mostly tongue in cheek with calling him a kung fu guy. I came from a similar point fighting background in kung fu myself and don't consider the freestyle fighting we did to be anything to do with Kung fu just like Lau Gar.

    I forgot about Cung actually.
     
  4. Jukai

    Jukai Silver Belt

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    More important than being a Kung Fu guy, I'm more shocked that anyone coming from those NBL-no contact and WAKO-semi contact competitions would have any success in MMA.
     
  5. SummerStriker

    SummerStriker Black Belt

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    I love this guy already. Sign me up for that train.
     
  6. Fat82

    Fat82 White Belt

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    Serious?
     
  7. devante

    devante Silver Belt

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    I guess you can translate some of the technique and approaches those no...semi contact fighters use...

    If you prep appropriately...then you can effectively apply what you developed in a diff medium...


    Also I posted a vid about this guy when he first fought...he won with a 360 headkick..and people said he would never get to any sort of legit promotion or beat a competent mma fighter..

    That being said raymond daniels had a lot of hype wit his dynamic standup...but he ended up petering out.
     
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    MadSquabbles500 Steel Belt

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    Who is an upcoming fighter from China?

    What happened to Luke Cummo?

    Serra has trained some kung fu too.
     
  9. DoctorTaco

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    Phrasing
     
  10. The Polish Pounder

    The Polish Pounder Excellence of execution belt Platinum Member

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    While not kung fu, Raymond Daniels I think is 5-1 as a pro kickboxer, coming from a point fighting background (kenpo, karate and TKD) and semi contact kickboxing. Just won by highlight reel KO in Glory.
     
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    wilddeuces Banned Banned

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    According to Dana White, Bruce Lee already invented the UFC and since he trained in Wing Chun, I'd say they matter is already settled.
     
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    CaptHANDSUP Blue Belt

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    I don't think Cung Le is the perfect example. San Shou is to Kung Fu what Muay Thai is to Muay Boran. Muay Boran and Kung Fu are umberella terms for martial arts from Thailand and China. San Shou and Muay Thai are two modern martial arts that mix modern western boxing/kickboxing with martial arts from those two larger groups. So he is a Kung Fu practitioner but not in the same way as a Shaolin monk for example.
     
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    Blackened It is a new era! Double Yellow Card

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    He's athletic and explosive, his success has little to do with Kung Fu.
     
  14. AndyMaBobs

    AndyMaBobs Brown Belt

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    It's nice to see people finally noticing this guy. He's actually very good, hopefully depending on my money situation I may start training at his gym (still training muay thai at my current gym of course :) )
     
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    Nuclearlandmine Shreddin' Double Yellow Card

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    Might as well said he's black already, mate.

    As for the topic at hand, i don't really know. Mr Page still got a long way to go to prove himself out of a few highlight reel finish. At this point he would get mauled with the upper and top echelon of MMA fighter.

    Also, am i found it funny that for all the praising MMA fans like to talk about humble and down to earth fighter, it is always the controversial and the hated are the money makers? Boxing fans figured this out years ago but apparently MMA fans still stuck in that bubble.
     
  16. Yodsanan

    Yodsanan K'FESTA.1

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    modern in what aspect?


    Most shaolin monks these days practice San Shou anyway.
     
  17. NidNoi

    NidNoi Blue Belt

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    Muay thai never mixed kickboxing.
     
  18. nomilkforsanta

    nomilkforsanta Nathan

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    Yeah, I bet if you ask him what his training is like he will say.

    Thai Pads - focusing on round kicks, push kicks, boxing, elbows, knees, and spinning kicks
    Mitt Work - focusing on boxing, knees, and elbows
    BJJ - gi and no gi
    Wrestling - whatever he can find in the UK (possibly judo, because wrestling is hard to find in the UK)
    Sparring - pure standup and MMA
    Modern physical preparation and nutrition

    Maybe he did traditional Kung Fu as a child/teen, however, now he is a Mixed Martial Artist. Or maybe he does his forms like GSP does (i.e., nostalgia and for show).

    I did karate from a child until I was a teen, kung fu in my teens, MMA in my 20s, and pure Muay Thai in my 30s...i consider my self a mixed martial artist.
     
  19. aries

    aries Silver Belt

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    Enough guys love him as hate him. Funnily enough having just watched an interview of him, like Mayweather he's like a decent guy and fairly humble outside of the cage. And you say that but the Klitschkos and Pacquiao are very well paid but well mannered.

    Partly. For some folk I feel they have less tolerance for certain peoples antics, not necessarily racist but due to cultural differences. That's why I listed British higher. But there will definitely be your bog standards racists that like him even less because of his race.
     
  20. EndlessCritic

    EndlessCritic Gold Belt

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    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Raymond-Daniels-34397

    He's not going anywhere in mma.
     

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