Finland's millennial PM says Nordic countries do a better job of embodying the American dream

[goldennirvana]

Its factual reality.

Ruskis have lower life expectancy
higher alcoholism higher drug use
higher unemployment triple the hiv/aids rate
5 times higher suicide rate
then Mexicans.

its a shithole.

And yet there is no mass migration of Russians out of Russia. Mexicans however can't get out of Mexico fast enough.

 

[nostradumbass]

She used to work as a cashier in a store and her parents were poor, then she went and got herself education and participated in politics.
Now she's the prime minister. So i quess that's why they are talking about the american dream.

Cool, so how was that a response to my post? Bernie Sanders was an unemployed couch surfer till he was 40 and has never even combed his hair, and now he's a millionaire senator running for president. That doesn't have anything to do with my post either.

 

[Kanka]

She is right, but Bernie's policies are more socialist than the nordic countries IMO. Most of them abolished the wealth tax because it didn't work.

 

[Kanka]

She's right, as long as your dreams are extreeemely modest and don't include having take home pay higher than 40k. US has 3x the number of millionaires as Finland does entire population.

Sweden, Norway and Iceland have more billionaires per capita than the US.

 

[nostradumbass]

Sweden, Norway and Iceland have more billionaires per capita than the US.

Did you think Finland was a town in one of those countries? Also, that fun stat is nationality, not residence. Looks like most of them have fled to Switzerland because of the taxes.

 

[Kanka]

And yet there is no mass migration of Russians out of Russia. Mexicans however can't get out of Mexico fast enough.

Actually the last couple of years more mexicans have left the US than entered the US. The immigrants of today are mostly from central america, not Mexico.

 

[Kanka]

Did you think Finland was a town in one of those countries?

No, but i did read the thread title which quotes finnish PM.

"Nordic countries do a better job of embodying the American dream".

Sweden, Norway and Iceland are indeed nordic countries.

 

[Raptac]

And yet there is no mass migration of Russians out of Russia. Mexicans however can't get out of Mexico fast enough.

Lmao no shit Russia is not an open border.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Are you talking about Sweden?

 

[Hollywood Jack]

lmfao wtf do you call Russia ?

They both do.

Russia is 2nd World and the homicide rate isn't anywhere near Mexico nor is it in immediate risk of turning into a failed state. Comparing their border with Russia to our border with Mexico is a false comparison.

 

[Vardoger]

https://voiceofeurope.com/2019/12/s...m-apartments-to-make-room-for-asylum-seekers/
TLDR government kicks residents out of building because toilets are too small. Reopens the building shortly afterward for Immigrants. Welcome to a Norwegian country.

Sweden is not a Norwegian country.

 

[honzo]

Who is scared of bring shot in public, aside from people in the inner cities? You make it sound like the US is one big slum.

........ No comment

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Who is scared of bring shot in public, aside from people in the inner cities? You make it sound like the US is one big slum.

To be honest, I'm American. I live in a upscale suburb of a wealthy city in one of the safest, quietest parts of the city. Still, I worry about home invasions and mass shootings. Unlikely, I know, but still FAR more likely to happen to me or an American in my position than our European counterparts.

 

[Deleted member 263856]

You can buy a 2000 square foot, 3 bedroom house in Finland for like $90K CDN. So like a third/quarter of where I live. God dammit.

In the middle of nowhere in a dying town maybe. Look up the prices for Helsinki.

 

[Cole train]

In the middle of nowhere in a dying town maybe. Look up the prices for Helsinki.

Yeah good luck in buying a house in the only place that can be considered a city in the entire country

Prices are like new york level

 

[Deleted member 263856]

She's right, as long as your dreams are extreeemely modest and don't include having take home pay higher than 40k. US has 3x the number of millionaires as Finland does entire population.

This is pretty accurate. I'm originally a Finn but relocated to Canada. We felt like we were spinning our wheels in Finland. We both hated our jobs in Finland and the field we could work in was very narrow. We also weren't really saving any meaningful amounts of money and buying a house in a decent sized city was beginning to look like a pipe dream. After relocating to Canada my wife was able to find a job that she absolutely loves and I was able to find a job that's still not what I want to do for the rest of my life but they treat me well and pay me well so I can't complain. We managed save a downpayment for a house in less than a year, kids followed soon after. I feel like we would still be living in a shoebox if we hadn't decided to leave. I know I'm in Canada but to me the "American dream" meant, working hard, sometimes struggling, but getting rewarded for it in the end. Not we're going to give you everything on a platter.

 

[machidafan99]

Everything that I think that a society should offer someone, which is nothing other than the ability to be able to do what you wanna do, is offered by America. You get nothing for free. I'm not asking for anything for free, and no one should get anything for free, but what they should have is the opportunity to do whatever the fuck they want whenever the fuck they want, and no one should be able to stop you. If you succeed, wonderful, if you don't, tough shit, bro, but in Sweden, you didn't even have that ability or opportunity to try, and that mentality is what I am going against. I am convinced that there are few, if any, American people that could even start believing or understanding what living in a socialist country does to a person. It kills the person, it kills the soul, it kills everything, it kills the whole purpose of a person being alive to begin with. It is the worst thing that you can do to a person.

-Yngwie Malmsteen

 

[kahiljabroni]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Finland

A mostly homogenized nation with roughly 5 1/2 million people. IMO there's a lot more wiggle room and less variables involved. It's a good model, though. Not sure if it's applicable for the United States. That'd be an interesting experiment.

This. Its monumentally stupid to even compare the two countries. The US is a vast land and contains the most prosperous enclaves and also the shittiest.

 

[kahiljabroni]

This is pretty accurate. I'm originally a Finn but relocated to Canada. We felt like we were spinning our wheels in Finland. We both hated our jobs in Finland and the field we could work in was very narrow. We also weren't really saving any meaningful amounts of money and buying a house in a decent sized city was beginning to look like a pipe dream. After relocating to Canada my wife was able to find a job that she absolutely loves and I was able to find a job that's still not what I want to do for the rest of my life but they treat me well and pay me well so I can't complain. We managed save a downpayment for a house in less than a year, kids followed soon after. I feel like we would still be living in a shoebox if we hadn't decided to leave. I know I'm in Canada but to me the "American dream" meant, working hard, sometimes struggling, but getting rewarded for it in the end. Not we're going to give you everything on a platter.

Beautiful post right here

 

[Bald1]

Can people please stop calling us scandi when we are not?

Literally only thing that triggers me on sherdog lol

God damned finno-urgic supremacist!