FIGHTS need to be scored as a whole not round by round

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  1. Xyiencemma

    Xyiencemma Purple Belt

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    Imagine if a football game ended like this! 31- 28 Seahawks over 49ers.(just an example) Now lets say the 49ers scored 7 points in all 4 quarters. Lets say the Seahawks scored 3 points the first 3 quarters and 22 in the 4th. So 49ers scored more points per quarter and the Seahawks scored more points in the whole game. Imagine if the winner of that game was the 49ers because they scored more pr quarter. That's how fighting is. If you win the rounds but lose the fight overall you win. Now I scored it for Gus 48-47 but that aside doesn't it seem silly that a fight is scored by rounds. Seriously think about that and imagine if in football you won because you scored more pr quarter even if you had a lower score at the end of the game. That would be insane and there would be riots yet in combat sports that is okay. Yes it is harder to break a fight down into 1 giant piece but it needs to be done!!!!
     
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  3. Stwonnie

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    That's why there is possibility for different scoring.

    The current scoring system isn't bad, it's just used improperly.

    10-9 for everything 10-8 for absolute destruction.

    Should be. 10-10 for a toss up. 10-9 for a close round with a clear winner. 10-8 for a dominant round. 10-7 for destruction.
     
  4. Degen Gambler

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    I think this can be fixed by using more 10-10 and 10-8 rounds
     
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  6. dieknowsore

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    well, it is more due to the 10-9 *must* system, where winning a round is treated as getting 1 point.

    if rounds were judged in a broader scale, where they used all 10 points, this wouldn't be a problem. A "10-9" can be a dominant round or a very close round.

    scoring should be done so 1 dominant round outweighs 2 razor thin rounds. this paints a more accurate picture of a fight.
     
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    iThrillhouse Silver Belt

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    you need psychiatric help if you think Gus won 4 rounds
     
  8. Matt4786

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    I tend to agree. That's how the UFC did it wayyyyy back in the day.
     
  9. Xyiencemma

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    I meant 48/47 my bad
     
  10. Sopapo

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    You r correct. While watching Costa vs Carmount i thought how unfair it seems sometimes.
    (not because of the fight, just because i was bored)
    Ill illustrate my problem with scoring with an example:
    imagine this fight
    A is figting B
    rd1: nothing really happens, evened in strikes, no td, no td attemps. but at the final seconds of the round fighter B lands a flush on A (3 or 5 powerful strikes) they dont knockdown figher A and he doesnt seem hurt either. anyone would score it for B (10 -9 B)

    rd2: A lands a takedown and controls the whole 5 mintues and lands lots of strikes while not putting A in trouble or near finishing him ever. (10 - 9 A)

    rd3: Same as round 1. (10 - 9 B)

    now you have a clear cut 29-28 unanimous decision for B even though there was a clear winner in only 1 round and that was the second where A won it. the other two were really even and one barely, by the slightest margin, steals it at the end of the rounds.
     
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    1-4 were Gus... you wanna give Jones 4 because he landed some shots in the last 30 seconds? Ok... 1-3 were a one sided beatdown... 4:30 of the 4th was a one sided beat down... and the rest to Jones.

    You wanna make a defense of Jones winning the fight based on what exactly?
     
  12. Xyiencemma

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    So should football games be scored quarter by quarter?
     
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    So your answer is giving the judges the privilege of not having to explain how they came to that conclusion? Brilliant.
     
  14. Xyiencemma

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    I messed up in the op. I meant 48/47. But you do bring a good point to him up. Gus won all of round 4 minutes the last short bit.
     
  15. Xyiencemma

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    My answer is to explain who won the fight fighter a or fighter b. Not who won rounds. Are we watching the fight business or the round business?
     
  16. One4Deuce

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    I hate when people defend the 10-point must system insisting it works. It doesn't. It really doesn't. Especially not for 3 round fights. More 10-10s and 10-8s would simply mean more draws. How is that a good thing? Score the fights on a whole. I've used the scored by quarter analogy before too, it wouldn't make sense in other sports and it doesn't make sense in MMA.
     
  17. rjmbrd

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    Each concept has it's pros and cons.

    In my humble opinion, the 10 point must as written, is the best of the "not perfect" options we have. I feel pretty confident influx of draw decisions will hamper the sport which is still trying to get a footing.

    The 49-46 score last night lets me know we still have a problem with plain old competency on the rules as they are endorsed today. If you take a step back and look at ALL of the ridiculous individual score cards turned in over 2013, its obvious we don't have consistent, thoughtful scoring.
     
  18. Emjay

    Emjay And again and again and again and ag.. zzzzzzzz

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    Jones still won then

    He almost finished Gus in the 4th and did more "damage" in the 5th
     
  19. Xyiencemma

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    Right and lost the 3 before that
     
  20. Stwonnie

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    it's just because judges are generally old incompetent toolbags.

    They're the same people as used in boxing, and they can't even get boxing scores correct.
     

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