Fighting Nerds: is the team making the fighters or the fighters making the team?

[rorschach51]

None of them will ever be champ though, that's what I think. Theyre as annoying as City Kickboxing but worse in fighting in my opinion.

Silva has a chance imo, I doubt the rest do.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

The fighters always make the team

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

i feel like giving credit to one is doing a disservice to the other. you need incredible athletes, but it's also very important to join the right team otherwise you can end up like Travis Browne, looking shittier simply because you went to another camp that tried to conform you to a specific mold instead of looking at the abilities you have and molding their system around that.

 

[HuskySamoan]

Fighters always make the team. People need to realize that most of the elite fighters would have been elite wherever decent team they trained.

I think this is a foolish statement.

 

[ElLunico]

I think this is a foolish statement.

Obviously a good gym with good training partners is important but elite fighters have come from unknown gyms. The elite fighters usually have natural talent in fighting and a decent coach and good training partners is enough.

Where and who does Dricus train? How about Ilia? Would you say his coaches and team is elite? Who's Khamzats main coach and where is his main gym??? Where does Shavkat train at? Jiri literally trains in the forest and spars trees

 

[Jaddy45]

Is it the coaching or did they just get lucky and got a bunch of good athletes in the same place?

If all of them were ragdolling and finishing people it seems they would get more credit than they do now. All the fighters styles seem so unique that it's kind of hard to put a finger on what the nerds are doing right.
Are they really good at gameplans? Are they training in innovative ways? Is it the ambient/mindset of the team that allows them to perform at a high level on fight night? Is there some kind of pattern they're all doing that we aren't noticing?

I'm not sure what is the secret but I lean really heavily that it's more the team making the fighters than the fighters making the team.

 

[NoSmilez]

I am not sure. The head coach looks like a fantasy nerd for me. I saw some clip of him teaching class. He was using the mongoose vs the cobra interaction in the wild and adapting that to the training. I was just like what kinda crazy Baki bullshit is going on?

 

[Xanzito]

I am not sure. The head coach looks like a fantasy nerd for me. I saw some clip of him teaching class. He was using the mongoose vs the cobra interaction in the wild and adapting that to the training. I was just like what kinda crazy Baki bullshit is going on?

Can't be crazier than Ferguson or Jiri, and they turned out alright

 

[Deltron 6060]

6 in one hand, half dozen in the other I suppose.

 

[Boguentoo]

Is it the coaching or did they just get lucky and got a bunch of good athletes in the same place?

If all of them were ragdolling and finishing people it seems they would get more credit than they do now. All the fighters styles seem so unique that it's kind of hard to put a finger on what the nerds are doing right.
Are they really good at gameplans? Are they training in innovative ways? Is it the ambient/mindset of the team that allows them to perform at a high level on fight night? Is there some kind of pattern they're all doing that we aren't noticing?

I'm not sure what is the secret but I lean really heavily that it's more the team making the fighters than the fighters making the team.

Both

Elite Athletes with Great Coaches.

Just look to Mauricio Ruffy style before Fighting Nerds and after FN( he moved to FN after his first loss).

Pablo Sucupira is a really great coach and they have Flavio Alvaro and his legendary takedown defense leassons

 

[Doctor Grudge]

They have a WMMA fighting nerd who has lost in the UFC.

she's a nerdette not a nerd

 

[Coconutwater]

Is it the coaching or did they just get lucky and got a bunch of good athletes in the same place?

If all of them were ragdolling and finishing people it seems they would get more credit than they do now. All the fighters styles seem so unique that it's kind of hard to put a finger on what the nerds are doing right.
Are they really good at gameplans? Are they training in innovative ways? Is it the ambient/mindset of the team that allows them to perform at a high level on fight night? Is there some kind of pattern they're all doing that we aren't noticing?

I'm not sure what is the secret but I lean really heavily that it's more the team making the fighters than the fighters making the team.

I might get flamed for this but the first thing that comes to mind is Firas with TriStar. GSP was an anomaly and that brought in Rory.

 

[TheMoa]

The fighters. But the gym is trying to built on it and developing a more professional/business structure. Borralho actually is a partner there (I think he came up with the FN name on the rebranding)
Brazil always had killers in MMA, but sometimes the gyms are really "old school" in how they are structured (amateurish). Bringing people from outside could be frowned upon. They are trying to copy a little bit of the ATT model.
Because of the success of the "core four" more fighters are joining and with better human material they can develop better fighters. Hell, they're got even that polish dude now.
For a fighter who didnt make it yet and want a more professional setting to improve, it's way cheaper to live/train in Brazil than to move to Vegas/Florida.

I saw Sucupira saying in an interview that they offer english and money management lessons for the guys (I dont know how much this is true though).
I do fear that too much of a hype before getting an actual champ could backfire.. here in Brazil people doesnt forgive much when guys fall.

 

[MisfitsBR]

 

[CroCopsLHK]

I don't mean to "cope" or make accusations at all. Just going back to history

Those three or four stars of the gym look unbreakable. They just seem to do whatever they want and their opponents freeze and can't seem to hurt them. I know Mitchell may seem a bit frail

But watching that fight and some other TFN fights made me think they all could have a PED system. Innocent until proven guilty but I thought it could be possible for sure

 

[swarrrm]

Probably secret juice

 

[Tito Tapped]

They have all the momentum and whatever they are doing in the gym is working. It'll be interesting to see what happens when fighters start becoming ranked contenders. It's easy to put team first when you're all at the bottom but when titles and ranking money start factoring in, attitudes can change quick.

 

[DoctorStoppage]

I don't mean to "cope" or make accusations at all. Just going back to history

Those three or four stars of the gym look unbreakable. They just seem to do whatever they want and their opponents freeze and can't seem to hurt them. I know Mitchell may seem a bit frail

But watching that fight and some other TFN fights made me think they all could have a PED system. Innocent until proven guilty but I thought it could be possible for sure

Yeah I’ve thought the same thing too honestly. I generally root for their fighters too so I’m not even hating but the level of physical strength/explosiveness/knockout power they all seem to share seems suspicious to me.

They’re not just beating people too, they’re knocking them dead or crushing guys who have never been KO’d before (like The Leech). I could be wrong and have no evidence but just my gut feeling.