few thoughts on the DC-JJ fight

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  1. hfajardoe

    hfajardoe Purple Belt

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    I believe that DC was over his head on this one. And I was really surprised to read that the majority of UFC fighters that voted pick him to beat JJ.
    I don
     
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    One of the best fight IQ's out there for sure, though some may question the smartness of fighting opponents at what they are strongest at. But damn it seems to work so why not?
     
  3. LikeItIs

    LikeItIs Red Belt

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    So you're saying your a Jon Jones fan?

    I can't really tell by your post who you favour so please verify.
     
  4. estranged

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    DC wins in rematch
     
  5. Badmav76

    Badmav76 White Belt

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    Jones and his camp seem to have it figured out for sure. But if you take away he reach and length would he be as effective? Obviously it a gift he is blessed with, but when he fought Gus it seem to nullify his advantage, and he did not look no where near as good as he did with shorter opponents.
     
  6. Gatts

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    1-2 are false. 3-4 are you hyping Jones.

    The guy is the champ for a good reason though.
     
  7. Striderxdj

    Striderxdj Brown Belt

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    I think if DC kept it a striking match in the clinch rather than trying so hard for that takedown he could have won it... he probably expected to have the wrestling advantage and even his idiot coaches were telling him to get the takedown in the fifth, he instead needed weidmans coach telling him to put his fist through his head.
     
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    Except that he didn't really try that hard for the takedowns once he realized he couldn't take Jones down.
     
  9. SoberAwakening

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    That's the problem with a lot of fans. The question of "would Jones be effective without his reach and length?" in my opinion is a moot point. Jones is the kind of guy who studies tape relentlessly, learns his opponents strengths and weaknesses, and then he sits with his coaches developing game plans on how to attack both. Only one fight out of his numerous title fights didn't go as planned...one. If Jones didn't have length and reach, I guarantee he would use whatever gifts he did have to be a champion. It's the mentality that Jon has that makes him great as well. People forget that part.
     
  10. 315MMAFighter

    315MMAFighter MąïȚře Đë Đəğåť§ - Pure Dominican Platinum Member

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    Hahahaaa,no
     
  11. Thy

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    dc had a terrible gameplan. dunno what he was thinking. he woulda been better off just runing straight forwards throwing random bombs the whole time.
     
  12. DarthChen731

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    I incredulous Cormier'd when I saw that all the pros were picking DC.
     
  13. Kirin

    Kirin Death Operator Platinum Member

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    Very ambiguous indeed. I mean, he was clearly selling jones short when he said that he dominated the fight.
     
  14. Badmav76

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    I guess a rematch will tell if that is true. But no doubt love or hate him, he is a great champ.
     
  15. Guardian MMA

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    Maybe my boxing is just awful, but the best non-instructor boxer in my gym is a 5'5 with short arms, and he wrecks me. He gets on the inside and sticks to me like glue. I have long arms, and my hooks have zero leverage at that range, my uppercuts are like t-rex arms, and if I throw a straight he ends up at a perfect angle to blast me.

    people seem to forget long reach is detrimental in a phone booth fight, just like using a claymore in a hallway would be... What makes Jon maul people at any distance is that he has the best elbows in MMA, and with his freakish reach his elbows are at his opponents hook range.

    for an example of what im talking about, watch tyson fight. The tall fighters can land properly with him stuck on em
     
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  17. ib313

    ib313 Imagine a Dystopian UFC

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    You sound like an SEC fan dismissing Boise State or TCU.

    (1) One doesn't really know anything until the fight happens. Although it is impressive how easily JJ handled the fight.
    (2) It is ALWAYS more punishing/embarassing/humbling to finish a guy
    (3) JJ is impressive... even without the eyepokes.
    (4) Fedor
     
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  18. phatron

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    Next time make the thread before the fight.

    Saying everything is obvious after the fact is easy.

    If it was so obvious then you should be a wealthy man.
     
  19. s karlyle

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    Bones is the best fighter in the world at using his advantages. But really... His more effective strikes are kicks so he didn't really use his reach advantage for striking per se.. It's more of how he use reach is an over all mannor. And I think bones is much stronger than people realize.
     
  20. kerykda

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    3. JJ has proven that he can beat any opponent at his own game, Sonnen at wrestling, DC grind and wrestling, Teixeira and Rua at striking
     

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