Fedor started slowing down at 33, GSP retired at 32, Jones is 32..

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  1. Hirashin This is not a profession Banned

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    Fedor's fight with Brett Rogers, he struggled. Of course he was giving up some 40 pounds of weight, but he always was the smalller guy and it never bothered him in the past. He looked slower, weaker and unmotivated. He still dominated every second of the fight and KOd the guy but this was the fight that was an eye opener for us Fedor fans, that he is beginning to slow down and becoming reckless. Fedor was fighting for 9 years and was undefeated. He would go on a bad losing streak from this point, many believe he should have retired undefeated.

    GSP retired at the young age of 32. He did it after he had a tough fight with Hendricks which many believe he lost. He was dominated in that fight in every aspect of the game. He slowed down too and with usada looming around, it was time to call it quits.

    Jones will be 33 this years and he too seems to be slowing down, allowing the rest of the pack to catch up with him. He looks very beatable now, he was arguably beaten in his last two fights. Should he retire undefeated?

    Goats retire or start to lose steam at young age! 32/33 is that age.









    except for Anderson who ruled the world till 38.
     
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    GSP lost to Hendricks and then fled during the USADA era even though Dana and everybody else said that he owed the fans, the belt, and Hendricks a rematch


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    Say what you want about Dana but he was absolutely right here
     
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    He was always too cautios and afraid to lose again and damage his legacy. GSP is terrified of losing. Usada scared him away, but Hendricks even more, cause Hendricks dominated the wrestling, clinch and broke his face standing, GSP had no answer. He understood that his time as champ is finished, he took that gift decision and retired. Smart move.
     
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    Jones fought sporadically until his comeback against Gus, and popped hot for what, the third time? So less wear and tear. Not all careers are the same. DC basically started in his 30s and looked very fast. But yes, most athletes start declining at 32+ so we will see. The juice thing puts things into perspective though. Jones threw DC around and couldn’t take down a dude that Volkan bullied. Doesn’t make sense
     
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    Because he didn't want to get punched by juiced to the gills Henricks
     
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    Jones couldn't take down a MW in Mareta and a journeyman in Reyes (5 years mma hobby) was really strange and definately an evidence that Jones is slowing down.
     
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    Fedor nuthuggers grasping straws. Who gives a shit it’s 2020 ffs
     
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    It's not the same for everyone, obviously, but in general it does seem like 32 is a starting point of decline for many fighters. This actually occurred to me in a different thread recently where a Jones fan was claiming that Rua, Machida, Page and Evans were all still in their prime when they faced Jones. They were all 32+. Jones is now 32 and showing signs of decline so...
     
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    It’s that or the constant testing, I honestly don’t know. Someone theorized the car crash messed his back up and he hasn’t wrestled well since which might be true lol.
     
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    GSP came out of retirement to win a belt in the division above and damn near killed a fighter that demolished Anderson.

    funny that hey.
     
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    23 yo Jones demolishes 32 yo Jones.

    yea, at 36, against 90 yo deflated Ping. And retired back instantly not wanting anything to do with anybody in any division. And he looked bad and his body looked terrible.
     
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    More food for thought:

    Athletic performance starts to decline around the age of 30
    https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/why-athletic-performance-declines-with-age/

    In most sports, this age sweet spot falls in the mid-20’s to early 30’s
    https://theconversation.com/how-does-aging-affect-athletic-performance-36051
     
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    23 yo Jones via KO/TKO
    or
    32 yo Jones via tentative controversial split decision :D
     
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    GSP retired 2 years before USADA was brought on board.

     
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    Cry harder.

    you guys are so funny.
     
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    Ignore him. He is silly.
     
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    I would say this highlights and age both does and doesn't matter. It does matter in that almost everyones physical prime is in their 20's or early 30's so fighters who are also in their technical/mental prime in those years tend to be the most successful and achieve GOAT level results. It doesn't matter in the sense that its also the milage that's a big factor in decline, someone who starts a high level career aged 30 still probably be at a bit of a disadvantage in that he has less of his absolute physical peak but he likely will not decline in his mid 30's the way someone would who started out age 20.

    I actually think in Andersons its a bit of a mix of having a middling career until the UFC fighting good comp pretty often but not being at the very highest level much of the time and the "Matrix" hype obscuring that he was actually losing speed for awhile pre Weidman. His absolute prime for me was around 06-09 when he wasn't depending on showboating or opponents being terrified of his hype.
     
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    He has more fights than gsp
     

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