Fedor in Abu Dhabi?

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How do you think Fedor would do in Abu Dhabi? Does anyone know if they've ever extended an offer to him? I think he'd be able to win. He's got olympic caliber Judo/Sambo(evidenced by a Russian Championship) and wasn't he training Judo for the olympics before he started MMA? That combined with his athletic ability and the fact that his Newaza's pretty good lend me to believe he could potentially win it. I don't think anyone's going to sub him and i think Fedor would win the takedown/stand-up portion of the fight say against a Roger Gracie and out point him.

I have seen threads about this before but i'd like to expand it by just putting forth the following questions. How would Fedor do in Abu Dhabi? Has any high leval Judoka or Sports Sambo notables competed before and if so how did they do? Finally, it doesn't look like there's anything to prevent this from happening- Fedor already competes Combat Sambo and i don't think Affliction would have a problem with allowing him to compete. If Fedor did well it could expand the talent pool by getting more Russian Judoka/samboist in the mix.
 
He would do good but probably lose on points to someone.Roger migt be able to tap him if there are no punches involved
 
No gi, though i wouldn't bet on Roger Tapping him. It'd be a great match to be sure... Have any other High Level Judoka's competed and if so how'd they do. I know Yoshida looked like he was giving Royce all he could handle on the ground in Pride.
 
No gi, though i wouldn't bet on Roger Tapping him. It'd be a great match to be sure... Have any other High Level Judoka's competed and if so how'd they do. I know Yoshida looked like he was giving Royce all he could handle on the ground in Pride.
 
his greatest submissions are against randleman and coleman....
 
would be tapped in round 1, fedor is arguably the greatest mma fighter alive, i doubt he is in the top 200 grapplers though
 
He has good submission defense and good takedowns, but guys like Roger Gracie, Ricardo Arona, etc, would tool him in pure grappling. What makes him such a wonderful MMA fighter is his transitioning between grappling and striking.
 
Higher Learning said:
would be tapped in round 1, fedor is arguably the greatest mma fighter alive, i doubt he is in the top 200 grapplers though
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You say he's not in the top 200 grapplers? How do we rate that though. I mean isn't Fedor an Olympic Leval Judoka at the heavyweight division? Fedor was training for the olympics and in all probability would have gained a spot? Top wrestlers have done well- why wouldn't a top Judoka? I know Sakurai competed and i think he did well in A.D. Isn't his base art Judo? If it is he's certainly not on the Olympic level. Which is why i also asked if any high caliber Judoka's have competed before and if so how would they do?

If we're objective who in abu dhabi's heavyweight division would win the Takedown Aspect with Fedor? If he wins that then he'll prob. start in top position and with a points advantage.
 
He's great at grappling in MMA. Fedor's greatness is due to the way that he blends his striking and grappling together. In a pure grappling or striking competition against full time professionals in those disciplines, I don't think he wold have much success. In ADCC I think he would maybe be tough to sub or take down, but I think he would lose on points. He's not a positional grappler. He's fluid on bottom but he's not gonna catch elite grapplers in a submission in grappling match. Likewise from top he prefers to pound, and his style of gnp keeps him away from submissions. Without that option I don't think he would have much success.
 
shinobu19 said:
You say he's not in the top 200 grapplers? How do we rate that though. I mean isn't Fedor an Olympic Leval Judoka at the heavyweight division? Fedor was training for the olympics and in all probability would have gained a spot? Top wrestlers have done well- why wouldn't a top Judoka? I know Sakurai competed and i think he did well in A.D. Isn't his base art Judo? If it is he's certainly not on the Olympic level. Which is why i also asked if any high caliber Judoka's have competed before and if so how would they do?

If we're objective who in abu dhabi's heavyweight division would win the Takedown Aspect with Fedor? If he wins that then he'll prob. start in top position and with a points advantage.
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There are a lot of people who could take Fedor down. Arona has already done so in rings, so there is just one example. But why do they have to? Nog swept Fedor twice from his guard in their first fight while having to dodge punches to the face. There are better grapplers in ADCC than Nog, and they wouldn't have to deal with the punches.

If you saw Fedor/Hunt, that should give you an idea of how well Fedor is going to fare off his back. He will get passed and owned.
 
thegreenblender said:
There are a lot of people who could take Fedor down. Arona has already done so in rings, so there is just one example. But why do they have to? Nog swept Fedor twice from his guard in their first fight while having to dodge punches to the face. There are better grapplers in ADCC than Nog, and they wouldn't have to deal with the punches.

If you saw Fedor/Hunt, that should give you an idea of how well Fedor is going to fare off his back. He will get passed and owned.
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You have some good points and may be right, but i'm still not convinced just yet. Sure Arona took Fedor down and he's been taken down before, but if it's just a grappling match i'd think he'd fare pretty well there. Also, even though Nog reversed Fedor twice- wasn't nog reversed right back in both instances?

Are there any top Judoka's like a yoshida that have competed that would give us someone to compare it to.
 
yeah i'm a huge fedor fan just like the next guy, but I don't think he is a technical grappler.
 
shinobu19 said:
You have some good points and may be right, but i'm still not convinced just yet. Sure Arona took Fedor down and he's been taken down before, but if it's just a grappling match i'd think he'd fare pretty well there. Also, even though Nog reversed Fedor twice- wasn't nog reversed right back in both instances?

Are there any top Judoka's like a yoshida that have competed that would give us someone to compare it to.
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Well, Yoshida wasn't even in the top 100 in the world in judo when he switched over - too old and injured. Same with Nastula. But the Beijing +100 kg champ is going to start MMA at a young age (23), so there will be a comparison.

The thing is, Fedor was a top ten or at worst top 20 judo heavyweight before he switched to MMA. But he hasn't done pure judo, or pure sambo, or pure any grappling in five years. The skills you need for pure grappling are different than for MMA, and he will have gotten very rusty in those. Its the same reason Anderson Silva would lose to Roy Jones Jr in boxing (though he'd easily beat him in MMA), and why Big Nog has the best MMA based BJJ but wouldn't win in ADCC either ... the way to train for a specialty is not the same as for a combination sport.

Put it this way - the Olympic triathlon champ has to be very good at swimming, cycling and running, but would lose to an Olympic champion distance swimmer on the pool, to the Olympic roadrace cyclist on bikes, and to the Olympic marathon champ running. Not because the triathlete is an inferior athlete to the swimmer, cyclist and runner, but because he has to spread his training around all three, while they can concentrate.

Even the fight with Arona was instructive, in that it was in Rings and didn't allow GnP to the face, which is one of Fedor's main weapons - and you could see he missed having that available.
 
BreezerD said:
yeah i'm a huge fedor fan just like the next guy, but I don't think he is a technical grappler.
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Well he does some things on the ground that in BJJ they might advice a different way, but in Judo i don't know.

I guess the larger part of my question that no one has answered is have any high level Judoka's(Fedor is one) participated and if so how have they done or how do you think they would do?
 
I think Fedor's experience going from MMA to pure world class no gi grappling would be much it is for many of those who go from pure grappling to MMA. As I think Fedor would have difficulty in a pure boxing ring or a Taekwondo match.

I don't think he would ultimately be as successful. He is indeed a "triathlete" of fighting styles.
 
Terere said:
he wouldn't get past round1
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You Brazilians do not really like Fedor, do you? And I'm guessing reason to that 'cus he beat the crap out of your top guys.

Fedor would do very well among the top grapplers.He is very skilled and he can adopt himself to 100% grappling as well
 
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