Fedor > GSP p4p GOAT and it's not close

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  1. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

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    GSP IMO had a more impressive run at WW than Fedor did at HW. Not by a lot, but I think the competition GSP faced p4p was better. Now for why I think Fedor is better p4p. Fedor became the GOAT HW and not many dispute that, but Fedor is a natural LHW. Fedor dominated a weightclass that he really didnt belong in, while GSP did not face a single fighter bigger than himself. Just imagine GSP being as dominant, but at MW. What Fedor did puts him p4p well above anybody else.
     
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    wilKO Green, White & Gold belt

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    It is close but Fedor is the goat. And I hate this natural LHW talk. Fedor belonged at HW. He was perfect for it. 233lbs is optimal. He wasn't at a disadvantage. His size and physique was an advantage.
     
  3. John Wayne's Teeth

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    I think Jones Anderson and GSP are all ahead of Fedor in terms of GOAT discussions.
     
  4. pick999

    pick999 Silver Belt

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    you could argue fedor the goat but some other names
    silva
    jones
    aldo
    gsp
     
  5. Perrichet

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    GSP is a natural FW
     
  6. poorlytoldjoke

    poorlytoldjoke Blue Belt

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    Subjective opinion is subjective. Also, dominant is the word you were struggling with there.
     
  7. Fiestar

    Fiestar Sean McCorkle

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    Jones > *
     
  8. spid3yo

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    Undertaker is the GOAT


    I mean if we are counting guys from the fake fighting organizations and all
     
  9. Enders

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    233lbs is not optimal for HW. When all else is equal, bigger is always better. 233lb is optimal for LHW.
     
  10. Fox by the Sea

    Fox by the Sea Lighthouse keeper Platinum Member

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    god how much i despise these GOAT discussions. it's beyond human language's ability to transmit.

    here's my revolutionary theory - There is NO GOAT. NONE. NEVER was. NEVER will.
     
  11. VroomyJeeps

    VroomyJeeps Brown Belt

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    take out all of fedors can wins and its pretty easy to see gsp is the goat

    besides fedor fought a lot of guys smaller than him, and a lot of the bigger guys were cans
     
  12. bubkusjones

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    It's easier to take on bigger guys when those guys are the likes of Zuluzinho, and Hong Man Choi. Don't forget, during that run he also fought guys like MW Matt Lindland, as well as Babalu, Arona and a well-past-his-prime Coleman.

    GSP may have stuck to welterweights and no bigger, but with the exception of BJ Penn (who was a former WW champ), those opponents have all been career welterweights.
     
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    613 Silver Belt

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    Hardy, Alves, Hendricks, Shields (at the time), Fitch all weighed more then GSP. You don't really seem to know what you are talking about.

    Nearly every great HW like Cro Cop, Nog, Cain, JDS, Werdum, DC, Randy etc.... are around the same weight as Fedor. Fedor actually had most of his toughest fights vs smaller HWs or LHWs. Size matters MUCH less at HW then any other division/


    Fedor has a GREAT case for being better then GSP. Size is not one of them
     
  14. John Wayne's Teeth

    John Wayne's Teeth Green Gucci Suit Platinum Member

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    I understand Fedor fanboys are little nuts but there is no need to bash Fedor.

    He fought the best at the time and went undefeated for a decade which is hard in itself.
     
  15. Enders

    Enders Green Belt

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    Source on all those guys weighing more than GSP? Alves is about to fight at 155.
     
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    Pretty much all the best HWs ever are withing 10LBs of Fedor's prime fighting weight. Some, like Randy and Cro Cop even weighed less. "Bigger is better" doesn't seem to apply to HW since its almost always dominated by guys 220LB-240LB
     
  17. LikeItIs

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    I find it's much easier to just appreciate all of their accomplishments and acknowledge the fact that they all had/have amazing MMA careers.

    This incessant need to determine who is the Greatest is about the most fucking mind-numbing, idiotic shit you can find on this or any other MMA forum.
     
  18. BubbaH

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    I have to agree. There will never be an all around agreement on the subject, only endless, foolish debate. The whole argument is just a waste of time.
     
  19. Enders

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    Nog, Cain, Werdum, Arlovski, Silvia, Hunt, Big Foot, all couldnt make 205.
     
  20. Enders

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    Why dd you open the thread?
     

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