First thread that isnt about hypothetical sluttiness . n.n As men and as fathers i think you are the most capable group to voice your opinion . At what point is a man really a loser ? Women tend to throw this designation around mericilessly when they dont like someone for even the smallest reason such as being short fat ugly unpopular poor . But what would really upset you in the choices your daughter makes in men barring the most obvious drug user violent or criminal ? At what point should a mans earning capacity social skills decision making ability and personally really be a problem or very undesirable in your opinion ? Im kind of expecting the standard " as long as he treats her well " but what if he doesn't able to keep a job ? Do you really want to bar to aim so low as only his being nice to her is enough for your little girl ? Should men have accomplished certain goals by certain ages ? What if hes nice but hes 30 and has no savings no house no car ? Surely being nice to her is not really enough if we are being truthful .