Father shot down drone hovering over his house as his daughters sunbathed

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  1. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...harged-criminal-mischief.html#article-3181965


    http://www.wdrb.com/story/29665291/kentucky-laws-vague-regarding-drone-use-and-personal-privacy
     
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  2. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    It's official. Now you can tell your creepy-ass neighbor that the 350 feet of Californian airspace above your property belongs to you:

     
  3. 5H3RD0G

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    Drones should not be flying anywhere they want they should have a dedicated air space confined to the owners own air space. If you want to fly it anywhere by a ton of land in which to do it. :icon_chee Everyone should have the right to destroy objects that don't belong in there territory. Drone age of privacy invasion has begun.
     
  4. sky

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    Finally, the paparazzi have done something good for a change. No one will care about the ordinary citizens and their asshole neighbors, but when the rich, wealthy, and famous get their privacy invaded, watch the lawmakers spring into action.
     
  5. Cubo de Sangre

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    Firing the shotgun sounds reckless.
     
  6. bjjHERRERA

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    THANK YOU Arhain2k!!
     
  7. RafailNadull

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    The whole spying drone thing clearly hasn't been legislated on properly yet but the guy seems like a nutjob. I mean,

    lol
     
  8. bjjHERRERA

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    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Would have been charged with firearms offences here.
    Are you allowed to shoot in suburban back yards in Kentucky?
     
  10. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    There were actually four seperate drones-related bills sent to the Governor's desk this summer.

    The three anti-trespassing bills regarding all drones flights "over private property", "over K-12 schools", and "over prisons" all got vetoed last month, only the personal privacy bill strictly for "drones equipped with camera flying over other people's private property" got signed into law this month.

    Which means the neighborhood pervert can't film people's backyard pools or peek in your windows anymore, but I fully expect drone cargo drops over prison yards to continue.
     
  11. Fight To Win

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    I completely agree with the man's actions. There needs to be a precedent set that these drones just can't fly over someone's property so some pervs can record some footage of young girls sunbathing. That's sick... Even if that wasn't the objective, it is flying over private property, almost certainly recording footage for little to no other discernible reason. It is an invasion of privacy in a time when we have increasingly less privacy.
     
  12. bjjHERRERA

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    ahh.. ok- thanks for clearing that up
     
  13. Cayenne

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    Definitely a loophole in the law if pedos are allowed to fly drones to film their neighbours' daughters. People are entitled to privacy on their own property.
     
  14. skombolis

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    Fuck that drone. One of the times I'm glad someone had a gun. And fuck the four perverts that thought for a second they were going to start some shit. The owners of the drone should be charged. We need to update privacy laws.
     
  15. JDragon

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    I completely sympathize with the shotgun guy.

    We are gonna get a lot more problems in the next few years. People are already flying drones near airports, are interfering with air rescue helicopters, have been used to scout nuclear power plants (in France, nobody knows who it was)... as these things get more common and cheaper, there will be HUGE problems because a lot of stuff is not regulated yet and / or hard to enforce.

    This exact situation is also a nightmare. Imagine your kids playing naked in the (not visible from the outside) garden. Any idiot with a drone can fly over, scout the neighbourhood and transmit the pictures / video. Nothing needs to be stored on the drone (at least I assume that is the case), so there would be no direct evidence.

    This is a real legal issue, btw. Does your property also include the airspace above it? And if so, up to what height? I would expect that most legal experts would answer "no" to this question, but I may be wrong.
     
  16. skombolis

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    Truth
     
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    dang he shoulda went with this instead
     
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    Im taking this national and already have please be with me!

    Mods please
     
  19. Scrody

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    Good for him.
     
  20. spikemma

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    Why do people like you act so fucking ignorant?
     
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    What? Getting arrested?
     
  22. ShinkanPo

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    So what happened to the pedo copter
     
  23. The Diplomat

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    Yeah, the technology is too new, and congress hasn't decided anything yet. But more cases like this, and there will be some legislature involved with the legality of civilians flying their own personal drones.

    If it's over private property, that's definitely a no no. The police should have confiscated it, just so they could see what was on the tape. Give the drone back in the end, if you want.

    But yeah, from what I heard, his kids are in the 14 year range and they were sunbathing in their backyard. I'd be pretty pissed too, if a drone was hovering above the house. It essentially renders privacy fences obsolete.
     
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    I'm pretty anti-gun but this guy did nothing wrong. Hopefully he's cleared.
     
  26. bufetadanacara

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    Even if they don't have a camera, I wouldn't want it flying over my property.
    First of all, it is a nuisance, but there is also a certain risk of the drone losing control and crashing and damaging someone or something. I view it like trespassing.

    Now, adding a camera to the drone makes it creeping and very offensive.

    I'm glad to see that this guy shot down the drone.
     
  27. jk7707

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    I understand the guy's concerns, but his reaction was idiotic. Not only is he shooting in the middle of a suburban neighborhood but what happens if that drone he's shooting at crashes into something or somebody? My guess is that he'd be responsible. Also threatening to kill the operators when they came to confront him doesn't make him look any better.
     
  28. bubkusjones

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    It may not (I don't know), but with the proliferation of privately owned, cheap, camera equipped drones like this one, that status should change. We're allowed fences and tall bushes/trees to provide us privacy from our neighbours/the general public when on our property (especially back yards). Windows come with curtains or blinds for the same purpose when indoors. Now that those are no longer sufficient to give us our privacy on our own property due to these drones, the definition of what is private property needs to adapt and expand to include the airspace above.
     
  29. Orgasmo

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    There should be some regulations regarding drones seeing how the increased use of them will cause privacy issues.
     
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    Even if the drone did not fly over to his property I asume it can still zoom in a bit and get a good view of the man's yard.
     
  31. VulcanNervPinch

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    Yep.

    People need to get on drone regulation quickly.
     
  32. RoryFan

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    Fuck it I'm just gunna repost from the other thread.

    You know what's better for taking pictures of your neighbors...

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    The UAV hate is fucking ridiculous. Paparazzi invading your privacy is fucked, but that's been going on for a long arse time. You throw the word "drone" into the mix and suddenly everyone is shitting eggs.
     
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    This honestly is what gets me about the story...

    Possibly taking photos of his daughters was wrong, but you can't elevate that situation to shooting guns and then threatening people directly with your guns as well.

    He should have just called the cops on the drone.
     
  34. Rex Kwon Do

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    How much is that lens compared to a cheap drone with a cam attached? I believe the latter is significantly cheaper, thus more likely to be a problem.
     
  35. Ruprecht

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    It's already illegal here, but enforcement is an issue. You can't just blaze away in the suburbs.
    Most drones I've seen record footage, because the footage over the FPV setups is pretty average.
    All the better FPV footage you see online is the locally recorded footage, not what's transmitted.
     
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    Do you know the kind of quality cameras you get on cheap drones?

    Do you know what sort of range you can get a clear picture with a 5.6ghz receiver?

    If you really want to take pictures of your next door neighbor it's still way cheaper and more effective to use a regular camera.
     
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    But it didn't. To me, this was an act of self-defense. Seriously.

    Well yes, but the way I read the story, the drone operators were pissed about their property being damaged and were about to enter his premises. I would not tolerate that, either, if I had the means to prevent it.
     
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    I don't either of those two questions are especially relevant. Some people are happy spying with shitty pictures. And this quality will increases dramatically very quickly.

    If your neighbour has fences then it might not be easier. you might not fancy getting caught standing on a crate with a camera but spying with a drone feels a lot less risky I'm sure.

    One way or another they need to legislate on these things. You can't have people flying these things over peoples properties or spying on them.

    I reckon this will be a technology that we regret creating in terms of privacy. Also in terms of security in general - it might render anti-terrorist security useless in the near future. Whilst you've got soldiers searching people for guns and explosives at the gate one of these things will be able to deliver a bomb right over their heads with pinpoint accuracy.
     
  39. Abezal

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    Still waiting for pics of the sunbathing women, was the trouble worth it.

    And would there be less crazy ways of bringing it down then a shotgun.
     
  40. JDragon

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    As I wrote earlier, drones have been used to scout a French nuclear power plant. Putting a gun on a drone is not too difficult. And the prospect of guns delivering poison or explosives is insane.
     

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