Fat Mobilization and the PWO window

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I know vedic has said fat PWO is bad because it creates a traffic jam of the fat you eat and the fat that is mobilized after working out. So my question is, when is it ok to consume fat again after working out. For instance, I had ate my normal low carb, high P,F, and vegetables until 1:30pm today. Then at 4pm, drank a 40g gatorade 40g whey shake starting 30 minutes prior and during my workout. An hour post workout, I had about 70g C from WW pasta and 45g P from chicken, veggies, and alfredo sauce that had about 6g of fat (I know the sauce isn't ideal). I ate salmon and veggies stirfryed in 1T of butter 2.5 hours later. Is this too much fat too soon? Anybody know of some resources and/or studies about this period of mobilized fat?
 
About 1.5 hours later and past should be fine in general terms.
 
Vedic said:
About 1.5 hours later and past should be fine in general terms.
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Right. Generally you want to avoid fats while you spike your insulin levels. That isn't even all that much sugar post w/o ..and a lot of protein. For carbs ( 50/50 dextrose Maltodextrin is ideal) shooting for .8 grams per Kilo of lean bodyweight if your over say 12% bodyfat. You can go to about 1.0 G per Kilo if your under. Should be ok on fats 1.5 hours later I like to shoot for 2 but that's splitting hairs. Protein about .4 G per Kilo.
 
It has nothing to do with insulin levels. They are already physiologically enhanced due to Glut4 and other exercise enduced responses.

It has to do with fat, not insulin.
 
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So, fish oil is okay?
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I believe so, but ill wait for Vedic or someone to answer that one.
I thought I read somewhere that O3's were ok.
 
Well if the whole point is that mobilized fat is creating a traffic jam with ingested fat, I don't think it would matter what kind of fat?
 
What about people on Keto?
 
Protein and carbs. Doesn't matter what type of fat. Don't do it for 1.5 hours PWO or so.
 
So what would be an ideal meal to eat PWO? I usually eat meat (mostly beef) and veggies 30-60 minutes later.
 
keep in mind what you are using post-workout affects your choices. if you are using a super fast digesting product like EAA or hydrolyzed whey, adding skim milk would hinder the speed most likely. it may not actually, but nobody know for sure. why risk it? if you use either of those two its going to taste awful regardless of using water or milk, so just use water. if you are using the more common whey isolate like found in the typical protein powder, milk wont matter.
 
Odd you mean Alan says the same as I do about Insulin. You don't say lol. Look it's sort of splitting hairs. You want milk PWO , use skim. If you eat whole foods PWO just try to limit the fat as much as possible, with which meat, you will have some.


Simply consume carbs and protein PWO, it's that simple. A syou could see in his article, the type of carb does not matter.
 
Alright. Thanks Vedic. Thats a pretty good pdf from Alan.
 
Page 14 is one of the reasons why I don't agree with "pulse" feeding.


Yes it is a excellent PDF, funny thing is, about six years ago Alan was in the High GI PWO club too.
 
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