Fast finish vs dominant decision

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  1. Moneymma

    Moneymma Brown Belt

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    i honestly think dominating someone for 15 or 25 minutes is harder than knocking him out early.If tj finished barao in 1st round some people would call it a fluke,but since he was destroying him for 20 something min. he clearly proved he was the better guy.
    look at tim boetsch-dude was getting beat up by okami and brad tavares for majority of the fight and won via comeback tko.that was less impresive than aldo dominating lamas for 5 rounds to me.another example is cerrone vs guillard/barboza.he was getting lit up and landed perfect kick/punch
    also many people thought chad had no chanse in rematch vs aldo cuz he got ko'd in 1st round.He clearly didnt show his potencial in that fight and aldo isnt that much of a finisher in ufc,so i knew it would be competitive fight,that would likely go to decision
    Point is if you win dominant decision you showed that you are better guy in every aspect of mma
     
  2. Thy

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    i'd much rather ko someone in the first 5 seconds. everytime. always.
     
  3. jamiehunter

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    That or it could just mean the fighter wasn't good enough to finish his opponent.
     
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    Great fighters make the most of every opportunity they get, and the most that you can do is finish your opponent.

    This is a characteristic seen in every MMA ATG except for post Serra GSP, and a lot of the time GSP was unable to secure finishes because he made technical errors, especially when it came to submissions.
     
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    I admittingly didn't read all of that...

    But I hate that mentality, a fight should be fought for a finish always. A finish should not be considered a fluke in any case (other than maybe something like a Silva leg break)
     
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    Everyone (myself included) likes a finish, but 5 rounds of domination leaves little question as to who is the better fighter. I suppose Cain/JDS would be the popular example.
     
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    I think that's a pretty crappy example because Cain would have finished any other fighter 4 times over, and Cain has very few decisions in his career.
     
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    A dominating decision is always a more definitive answer to which is the better fighter overall. You can KO someone quickly while being the worse fighter, but you'll never dominate a better fighter over time (barring some injury, but that's not really the point).

    Cain vs JDS is a perfect example. GSP vs Serra is another.
     
  9. estranged

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    yup
     
  10. Melas Chasma

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    Pretty much this.
     
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    Dominate for a couple rounds and then finish, thus leaving no room for any questions.
     
  12. capnlarge

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    I guess it depends. Something like Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin or Forrest Griffin is probably the most dominant way to win.
     
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    This.
     
  14. McSpikes

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    It all depends on how the fast finish came about.
     
  15. Moneymma

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    This. Im pretty sure cub wouldn't get ko'd in 9 sc if he rematched aldo
     
  16. Moneymma

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    Well any fighter would. Im not fighter and would rather see great fight for 15 minutes than a fast ko.
     
  17. Moneymma

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    You said it best!!!! Lol like edgar/swanson,mendes/guida,jones/rampage,tj/barao etc
     
  18. sum dum ho

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    i think meeting somewhere in the middle is more definitive statement. Idk much rather see a second round or even a late first round finish as opposed to a 10 second KO. knocking someone out very early doesnt necessarily mean theyre the better fighter.
     
  19. Moneymma

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    Yes-if you get ko'd early you made 1 mistake,but if you get dominated you need to change your whole game(cain vs jds)
     
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    The rules of the sport allow the finish to prevail and wipe out anything that occurred before.

    Winning an entire 3 or 5 round fight is pretty definitive though.

    On the other hand, there are a lot of fighters that don't have the tools to win rounds but have the tools to end it quickly, and consistently do that.
    That part gets missed by the whole 'domination' crowd, especially in the few fights where they don't get things done and lose rounds instead.

    A finish always indicates the clear winner.
    One sided decisions show a clear winner in a different way.

    To me, clear 29-28 or 49-46 show a winner, but it's less impressive.
    And I hate the 48-47 fights. IMO, the winner of a 48-47 just happened to win that day but could just as easily lose.

    There are exceptions to everything.

    I still prefer the definitive finish over everything else.
    It's a sport, and unlikely things happen sometimes. That's why you should always judge long term records and not judge a fighter based off of one fight.
     

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