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There's diminishing returns to both ends. Flyweight is thin and weak, as is Heavyweigjt. Golden weight classes have always been 145-205 (MW was weak for a long time)
True, 205 has been shallow and weak outside the top 5 in recent years, but it's been home to the most well rounded and skilled fighters of the past decade(s). No other weight class can say thatYour general understanding of the bell curve nature of things is right. The average athletic American/Brazilian man is a LW (about 5'9"-5'10" and 170ish lbs) so 155 is the deepest, followed by 145 and 170 as we move away from that fat centre of the bell curve.
But while 205 has always been a marquee weight class due to the spectacle of big boys cracking each other, talent-wise it's been shallow as fuck too, hence nonsense like Shogun and Rampage getting title shots on 2-win streaks, or Jones defending against consecutive 185ers or Gus getting a shot off a R1 KO loss.
The flyweight's being "more skilled" is absurd. This was a myth born with Mir and Rogan that is perpetrated all the time. Who has the grappling of Maia at FW? Who has the striking of Conor? Who has the wrestling of Khabib or the movement of Lando? I think the most skilled division are the divisions where the normal sized guys fight, because that is where the highest percentage of men are.Truth.
I love hearing how Flyweight is so 'technical' when the top two contenders (Cejudo and Benavidez) are wrestlers with rudimentary striking. Cejudo is actually a pretty awful wrestler in the context of MMA, failing to take and hold down guys like Camus, Benavidez, and Kimura.
Benavidez is also very sloppy with his striking, and is only effective because he hits hard for a Flyweight. Hitting hard is not unique to Flyweight, and bigger weight classes have harder hitters.
Aside from Mighty Mouse and Horiguchi, Flyweight doesn't really have super fast, athletic powerhouses, especially now that Dodson left.
Makovsky, Bagautinov, Ortiz, Cejudo, Moraga, McCall etc... are all just wrestlers with some serviceable striking (at best, Ortiz and Makovsky suck at striking) Fighters like Romero, Weidman, Woodley, Cormier, Rumble, Jones, Bader, Davis, etc... are all wrestlers with much more varied skill sets in both striking and grappling.
What makes this funny is that a guy who has trouble with Flyweights (Lineker) have been tearing it up at 135, and may be knocking out the former champ soon. His only difficult fight came against a former Flyweight (Dodson), who holds a win against the former champ.
The myth that the smaller weight classes are the more skilled NEEDS TO STOP. There's diminishing returns to both ends. Flyweight is thin and weak, as is Heavyweight. Golden weight classes have always been 145-205 (MW was weak for a long time)
True, 205 has been shallow and weak outside the top 5 in recent years, but it's been home to the most well rounded and skilled fighters of the past decade(s). No other weight class can say that
From Sherbro to Sherbro I advise you to don't doubt LW. Your thread will explode.name top 10 LW fighters (in the UFC) now please
This. what a crap thread. ts to name the top ten ww's.What???
LW is the shit!!
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you're both welcome to prove me wrong, though. (not that you could)
The UFC Rankings or my personal rankings? I could do both if you want but my personal rankings are:lmao, no you didn't. I specifically asked for a list of the top 10 current LWs in the UFC yet none of you have been able to compile a list because in reality there are about 5 top guys in that division and then there is a significant decline in terms of depth of talent. same the with the rest of the sub-157 weight classes (minus FW)
lmao, no you didn't. I specifically asked for a list of the top 10 current LWs in the UFC yet none of you have been able to compile a list because in reality there are about 5 top guys in that division and then there is a significant decline in terms of depth of talent. same the with the rest of the sub-157 weight classes (minus FW)
You could say the same things about fighters at WW and MW, but both are stacked.I'm sorry, but who exactly has chiesa beaten? who have miller and poirier beaten? MJs only notable win is over barboza, both RDA and melendez are on losing streaks (2 and 3 loses respectively) and diaz is a veritable gatekeeper who competes @ both WW and LW.
I think MW looks pretty strong still but I'd say WW is the strongest in my opinion. MW has great guys up there who have big accomplishments behind them though, but some of them are past it in my opinion. You might look at the division and think "Wow, look at this division with guys like Vitor and Silva not even in the top 5!" but in reality they're not as good as they used to be.hey, I suppose you're right now that I look at it. for some reason MW seems more stacked to me but when you break it down guys like mousasi and whittaker haven't really achieved all that much.
thank you for allowing me see the light.
this wasn't the question I asked but thank you for trying.