*Fact or Fiction: About JDS, Wanderlei and other brazilian strikers*

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Just like Wanderlei and JDS, some brazilian strikers try to keep the "myth" of their great, dangerous, black belt BJJ just to pretend they are a threat on the ground and as a way of keeping the fight on the feet.

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I would say that is very much a fact. JDS has always had terrible ground game and his brawler style would get exposed as being very one dimensional.
 
since when is jds a brawler? ne never brawled with anyone. he is a "in-and-out" boxer. you cant compare chute-box styles with any other brazialin styles.

wanna see brawlers, watch early rua, wand, cybrog, maybe early thiago silva.
 
JDS is the opposite of a "brawler" he has very tight crisp boxing...but on the ground he looked pretty new, especially considering he has a black belt under the Nog bros
 
Yesterday he was a technical boxer with good footwork. Now, after a loss, he is in the 'brawler' category with Wanderlei?
 
JDS is the opposite of a "brawler" he has very tight crisp boxing...but on the ground he looked pretty new, especially considering he has a black belt under the Nog bros

he didn't look bad imo, he did defend that rnc and the armbar attempt. he also slipped out fast from that triangle attempt by cain.
 
and btw. the chute box guys all have nice bjj, they just dont use it often cause their standup is even better. take a look at cyborgs fights, he goes for subs on the gounrd all the time. rua is nice on the ground too, his halfguard and full guard are dangerous for anybody and he is a master in passing guard and get full mount. thiago silva has some sub wins too.
 
JDS is the opposite of a "brawler" he has very tight crisp boxing...but on the ground he looked pretty new, especially considering he has a black belt under the Nog bros

Edited to avoid missing the point of the thread.
 
The Fact is a lot of Brazillian fighters are not Good with Wrestling
 
Yea Im guessing some brazilian dudes gave him a black belt to spook Cain and everyone. We all know its a sham. What is he, training BJJ 24/7? He got that black belt in like a month.
 
It looked like JDS was pretty well defeated early on. I think the first takedown ruined his confidence more than the knockdown. After that he couldn't do anything standing, which is what he has done in the Octagon, so expecting him to use BJJ at that point could be out of the question. He seemed out of it and gassed quickly.

Although that is all an excuse. He didn't prove much to me in the form of offensive BJJ. He did defend well against submissions.
 
JDS didn't look great on the ground or on the feet after getting smashed to hell in the first. H was still grasping on to consciousness.
 
Don't know how legit his black belt is..he is like 27-28 takes 10 years from fairly constant training 2-3 days a week to get a black belt but maybe the Nogs do it a bit easier then most...it really depends on who your under.
 
Don't know how legit his black belt is..he is like 27-28 takes 10 years from fairly constant training 2-3 days a week to get a black belt but maybe the Nogs do it a bit easier then most...it really depends on who your under.

JDS isn't a black belt under Nogs.
 
Wanderlei is actually pretty good off his back.

He is not horrible, but also not "pretty good". He defends well and does nothing more, his rare submission attempts fail.
 
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