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FAA clears Boeing 737 Max to resume flying

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  1. HockeyBjj Putting on the foil

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/b...-flights/ar-BB1b7Zqt?ocid=msedgntp&li=BBnb7Kz

    To those who's memories on this are lapsing as all the craziness of 2020 played out, the 737 Max was rushed into production because Airbus was beating Boeing on their next gen more fuel efficient single aisle plane that is an industry workhorse for domestic flights. The new engines Boeing put on were too back heavy on the wings causing stalls, so Being put in some software to automatically push the plane's nose down without the pilot knowing. This was all tied to a single sensor, which if/when it failed, caused the plane to repetitively push the plane's nose down until it was in a complete nosedive no matter how much the pilot pulled back on the stick. There is a system to disengage this "safety" feature, but in the interest of saving money, pilots were never required to train on it as the 737 max was considered so similar to the 737 regular pilots familiar with the 737 only needed 3 hours on an ipad to be certified for the 737 max. Disengaging the automatically push the nose down of the plane feature was not in these three hours.

    The 737 max now has software changes that limit the MCAS (the system that pushes nose down automatically if it thinks there's a stall) but of course the engines are still high and back making the plane at risk of stalls now. There's also enhanced pilot training in place for the plane. The sensor the MCAS looks at is now fully redundant, rather than an optional upgrade airlines could pay Boeing extra for. FAA has given the 737 Max clearance to resume flying, altough airlines will likely need a few more months before returning their 737 Maxes to service for passenger flight.

    Those appear to be the only changes to the aircraft responsible for 346 deaths in a 4 month span. The Air Line Pilots association, representing 60,000 pilots in North America including those at United and Delta, have stated that the the engineering fixes and proposed training procedures look safe to them.
     
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  2. Social Distance Warrior Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    Nice...

    I'll play Russian roulette right before I board one of those...to double

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  3. Get To Da Choppa Purple Belt

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    Another case of Ford Pinto, where bean counters took over the design phase instead of engineers. Myopic vision by the leadership to keep milking out the same 50 year old 737 frame instead of designing a brand new airframe, and when they got caught off guard by the A320 NEO, rushed the Max into service without disclosing all the changes in order to pass certification fast. Really had they disclosed the MCAS it's likely the two accidents wouldn't have happened. Now instead of a hit of a hundred million dollars for pilot certification, they are faced with billions in damage and lost goodwill.

    Airlines are to blame here too, particularly southwest. They had a stipulation that if the 737NG pilots have to get recertified in simulators they would get compensated $1M per aircraft. Overall it's a disgusting mixture of corporate greed and lack of oversight.

    Here's the hope that the Max could be like the DC-10 though, where some initial horrible accidents forced a stricter recertification process that made the aircraft a lot safer
     
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  4. Hadron90 Red Belt

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    A series of plane crashes is a nice drum roll leading up to whatever the 2020 finale will be.
     
  5. matheuss92 Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Will it matter, tho? Im not that sure companies are thirsty to use the 737 max. Even if its proven to be the safest ever, too much damage was done to the planes reputation. Boeing should pretend it scrapped the old designed and plane and "create" a new one. Same shit, few adjusts to improve its efficience but a damn new name. I already can see chinese govt reproving the use of the 737, and trust me, many governments will mimic that move if its in their interest or we keep that trend of cold war 2.0
     

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