Exposing the throat when face to face

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  1. Carrera26

    Carrera26 Orange Belt

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    Perhaps there is a simple solution that I simply haven't stumbled across yet, but I am have having problems exposing my opponent's throat for certain chokes when we are face to face. I know several methods from behind but really nothing when I am on top or in guard.

    Specifically I am finding it nigh impossible to sink in a Sode Guruma Jime (Ezekiel Choke) before they bury their chins. I really like this choke in drilling and it seems very quick and oh-so-tight if you can slap it on, but I just can't get it on a live opponent. Ideas?
     
  2. Doctor Venture

    Doctor Venture Black Belt

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    Take what is there instead of forcing something thats not. Attack an arm and he will most likely open up the neck.
     
  3. Ballzilla

    Ballzilla Yellow Belt

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    I had the same problem rolling last night. I couldn't finish the Ezekiel to save my life.

    On a side note, if you're in their guard I'm pretty sure you should be focused on passing and not trying to choke them. I'm only 2 months in now but I'm fairly certain that's a good way to get armbared.
     
  4. Carl Drogo

    Carl Drogo Kane > Henry

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    Ezekiel from in someones guard will most often result in arm-bar. Ezekiel from your guard will result in un-necessary use of energy, as an easy counter is posture.

    Mount should make it easier to expose the neck.
     
  5. Carrera26

    Carrera26 Orange Belt

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    I meant that they are in my guard. I see the most Ezekiels come from closed guard.
     
  6. Ballzilla

    Ballzilla Yellow Belt

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    Ah. I gotcha. I had trouble finishing from the mount. I finally got it on my third attempt which came after losing the mount, passing guard, getting reversed, reversing and passing back to full mount. :icon_lol:

    I don't understand how people could try this sport and not like it.
     
  7. Hillary

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    Kiss it ever so softly. He'll lift his chin.
     
  8. Luther

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    Hillary, depends on who kisses who...
     
  9. HEAVY GRAPPLER

    HEAVY GRAPPLER Brown Belt

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    Not exaclty what you are asking for - but I think it may help a bit...



    At about 0:55, Helio puts the back of his elbow against the guy's face, then uses it to create an angle and expose the guy's neck and collar. "That's his little move."
     
  10. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    Is this based on your own personal experience...?
     
  11. Kenny from MD

    Kenny from MD Less angry than before.

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    No you dont, the majority of ezekiels come from the side, or back.
     
  12. Carrera26

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    Found it! From the great Judoka Koji Komuro no less. It's his favorite choke and he has tons of setups and tricks. If you don't know him, he has often competed with really top-notch BJJ black belts and accounted VERY well for himself.

    All in Japanese, but it's clear enough





    9 total chapter from this poster, can't wait to get home and record them all.

    In Judo, most of the Sode Guruma Jime's I have seen have come from guard, either on bottom or top, like Koji's first video.
     

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