Didn't get home til very late last night and was still wired from all the great fights. I went and saw them with some friends, the MT guy saying some silly things that were refuted by my grappling brain, the food being decent, the fights being amazing. Figured (as always) the worst from Sherdog but thought that, at most, it'd be complaining about something on the undercard that I missed. Anyway, I get here and see 800 threads about wall'n'stall of all things. Worse than anything I could have expected, congrats Sherdog. Clearly none of you guys saw JDS getting finished for the first time in the UFC and brutalized. Clearly the most damage-inflincting-wall-n-stall in the history of mankind. But I was ALSO shocked that no one pointed out how odd the 4th round was for Cain. People I was with were saying it and we were all agreeing... it was bizarre. JDS was clearly not recovered from that beating in the 3rd. He did not have his hands up. Every single shot Cain was throwing seemed to be landing without defense. Yet Cain would throw a short 1-2 then immediately clinch, almost as if he wanted to hold up a recognizably out-on-his-feet JDS. How else can you explain this other than intentionally prolonging his punishment??? Not wall'n'stall of ANY sort... something entirely different. I had to imagine Cain's corner was screaming for the finish since JDS had 0 offense. You could explain the weird clinch giving an out-on-his-feet JDS time to recover at the end of the 3rd... Cain was weary of going for broke and giving JDS an opening for a Kongo-Barry shot. But ALL of the 4th doing the same? When JDS was clearly ready to be finished? To me it looked like nothing short of sadism. I figured he was sending a message loud and clear: "NO MORE REMATCHES EVER AGAIN. DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU AGAIN. IT ISN'T GOOD FOR YOUR CAREER" Especially when he did it 10 times in a row when JDS was clearly going down, AND THEN finished at the end of the 5th just as I predicted he would... torture as long as possible but also maximize damage and finish him off for the utmost effect. Did anyone else see this happening other than the guys at the house I was at? I have been a huge Cain fan for years and am shocked no one else on Sherdog saw it this way... all he needed to do to finish JDS in the 4th was disengage and strike for longer than a 1-2. You KNOW Herb was itching to stop it ASAP and that was ALL he was looking for the entire time. The question is why he didn't when JDS couldn't even raise his hands much less throw effective counters during those flurries. EDIT: Video where Cain says he does indeed pass up finishes sometimes in order to intentionally punish JDS, from 2:50-3:50 Thanks to tonycpa for the link!