Explain why Holly doesn't get taken down and her arm broken by Rhonda

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  1. Coffee79

    Coffee79 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    I've been watching Holly's fights and she is a phenomenal striker, infinitely better than Rhonda.

    But once Rhonda gets close and gets her to the ground, what are you seeing in Holly that isn't going to result in her screaming in pain and tapping as Rhonda bends her extended, helpless, arm ?
     
  2. Senzo Tanaka

    Senzo Tanaka Silver Belt

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    There's no explanation. Holly's ground game is untested and she said herself the ground makes her nervous because she doesn't get a chance to use it in a real fight.

    What makes her dangerous is her footwork, her power and her variety of strikes. She moves like Cruz and fights at a distance. I think she puts Ronda away if it stays standing for any amount of time.
     
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    She has great footwork. The best grappler/wrestler to ever live isn't going to be able to even attempt a takedown if they can't find their range.

    RR is still obviously the favorite.
     
  4. Tapped2Strikes

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    Because Ronda wants to prove she's a better striker than Holm is as well. And she is. Ronda via TKO in the 1st round.
     
  5. devilfisted

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    If Ronda cannot close the distance. Meaning Holly has the best footwork in all of wmma she is in big trouble. This is a woman the is in striking what she is in grappling. Holly can stay at range where she gets all her best work done we have a new champ. I do thing Ronda is more aggressive though and will fight like hell to get in there. Not an easy fight for either.
     
  6. devilfisted

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    nope! she is not at Holly's striking level.
     
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    Because its hard to armbar somebody when you're eating shots to the grill.
     
  8. BigMuffler

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    Why not let her beat a top 10 first before even pondering her as a threat to Rowdy...
     
  9. Tapped2Strikes

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    Just like Jones wasn't at DC's level as a wrestler. MMA is a different game. I'll bet on the greatness that is Ronda Rousey all day, every day. She's a freak athlete that is improving by a massive amount each time she steps into the octagon. Throw in Holm being worried about the takedowns and Rousey would light her ass up on the feet. Guaranteed.
     
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    Hasn't Holly already been taken down by one of the 2-2 fighters she's been fighting?
     
  11. TardStrong

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    Your are most likely right but I am interested in the good fights she can have within the division.

    Ronda is on another level but there are plenty of fun fights for Holm in the UFC.
     
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    hard to eat shots to the grill from your back though
     
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    In spite of her not being able to do that to lower tier opponents? You need to get serious here.
     
  14. TLee391

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    Are you trying to say she doesn't finish fights. She's 7=0 with 6 finishes.
     
  15. devilfisted

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    Dude we are talking about a world boxing and kickboxing champ. Ronda is the better overall mma fighter. but is has become clear to me that you have never seen holly box kickbox or fight in mma.
     
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    let's hope she has a plan to defend the armbar
     
  17. devilfisted

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    If they fight and Ronda gets her down that is it. done!
     
  18. cade187

    cade187 I'm not a part of your system.

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    Because she will tap out before the bone breaks, and Ronda will release the hold.
     
  19. Tapped2Strikes

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    Just like we were talking about an OLYMPIC WRESTLER in Cormier that Jones just outwrestled. How does a guy like Gus with no wrestling background stuff Jones takedowns better than Cormier, an Olympian does? Because it's a different game in there. Chael Sonnen outstruck Anderson Silva on the feet in their 1st fight. Nobody would EVER call him a better striker, but when it's a fight, you have to account for the threat of takedowns and who is the more complete fighter. I'm telling you right know, Rousey would outstrike Holm. It's a lock.

    I don't care about your achievements in other martial arts, doesn't mean it translates to making you the best in MMA. It has become clear to me that you don't watch MMA period if you don't realize this fact because this very fact was proven just 2 weeks ago when Jones outwrestled Cormier. I, on the other hand, have seen several of Holm's fights.
     
  20. devilfisted

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    This is the most likely outcome.
     

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