Explain to me Why Citizen Kane isn't the Greatest Movie of All Time

revoltub said:
It sucks. It is outdated, and the only reason why you think it is great is become It has become some list told you it was.

There is nothing more hipster/trendy/film snob then mentioning citizen LAME
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Pretty much this....100%. Nobody actually thinks this is the best movie ever, it’s just something they were told.
 
Drunken Meat Fist said:
It's not my favorite, but my favorites have to bow down in the pure, non-sloppy, sense. What was done in that movie made movies movies. How do you put Casablance or Gone with the Wind in the same sentence. There are perfect movies, but there aren't movies that flat-out, there was before and after this movie. What took Hitchcock a lifetime, Welles was doing chewing bubble gum, terrorizing the c untry and fucking Rita Heyworth. It''s not a cocky statement, I was just wondering on what grounds the choice of someone's second best matches up outside of emotional personal subjectivity
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The common view would be the visuals are a mix of Wells and cinematographer Gregg Toland being given an unusually free hand for the era, basically introducing a lot of elements that would be more typical for European art films into a mainstream release.

I admit personally my interest in cinema picks up much more around the European/Japanese new wave were your not just looking at films that influence latter cinema but are more fully formed themselves, something like Breathless could be released today as a period piece and wouldn't seem dated, maybe parts of classic Kurosawa would but not the lead performances.
 
Lack of nudity. Probably. I haven't watched it yet.
 
Ikuza said:
Lack of nudity. Probably. I haven't watched it yet.
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FYI you need to watch the unrated version of Citizen Kane if you want tits and ass
 
koolinkunming said:
Agreed. It was revolutionary as far as camera angles and shit at the time, but otherwise isn’t all that exceptional.
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This. Citizen Kane is remarkable for purely historical reasons; a lot of technically groundbreaking techniques were utilized for the first time in it.

Outside of that historical context, I've never found it a particularly powerful movie. It's real claim to fame is how it transformed the nature of making movies, but that merely makes it an important movie, not a good movie.
 
Bunch of people displaying their ignorance ITT. And their lack of reading comprehension too.

TS, I get what you're saying, and while it's difficult to disagree, it's not impossible. As others have mentioned, there are other films that could potentially take credit for being as influential; Metropolis, Birth of a Nation, etc.

However, I think Citizen Kane is still, as you say, kind of what made movies what they are. Especially American cinema.

All that said, I still don't particularly enjoy the film. I kind of rank it alongside things like Lord of the Rings, or La Dolce Vita (as odd as that pairing may seem); films that are technically impressive, and I understand why people like them, but I personally find boring and uninteresting.
 
Zer said:
FYI you need to watch the unrated version of Citizen Kane if you want tits and ass
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..or go with the Russian equivlent and watch Andrei Rublev.

Although seriously that film to me shows what I said previously, its cinema that's fully formed, indeed arguably cinema evolved beyond much of what we see utilised today.
 
it's boring and its in black and white. Also, doesn't feature Avril Lavignes' wristband.
 
Aside from Orson Welles, the acting is generally subpar. I don't think it's the greatest movie ever made, but I do think it's quite possibly the best movie ever made relative to other films at its point in time.

Also, squawking bird deserved a Best Supporting Actor nomination.
 
If it was on TBS and Heat was on TNT, there is no question, I would enjoy Heat much more.
 
INTERL0PER said:
Bunch of people displaying their ignorance ITT. And their lack of reading comprehension too.

TS, I get what you're saying, and while it's difficult to disagree, it's not impossible. As others have mentioned, there are other films that could potentially take credit for being as influential; Metropolis, Birth of a Nation, etc.

However, I think Citizen Kane is still, as you say, kind of what made movies what they are. Especially American cinema.

All that said, I still don't particularly enjoy the film. I kind of rank it alongside things like Lord of the Rings, or La Dolce Vita (as odd as that pairing may seem); films that are technically impressive, and I understand why people like them, but I personally find boring and uninteresting.
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Travis Bickle is far more entertaining/interesting, that’s for sure.
 
The movie is pretty boring. i think most people are confusing it for the porno
 
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