Law Experts agree: Biology is not binary; UK biologists disagree with supreme court ruling

[Soggust]

Public police need to be the best they can be for the greatest number of people. It makes no sense to sacrifice the well-being of the majority to satisfy a minority, especially if they are overrepresented in sex crimes.

Keeping trannies out of women's spaces is obviously the safest and best policy.

I’m talking about apples but you’re arguing oranges.

I’m only concerned with how to deal with the cases that don’t fit into a simple definition of 2 sexes (intersex).

Having a policy that includes intersex people does not translate to believing people’s feelings defining their sex.

 

[Hdfi]

You've convinced me. These ladies need to start using the women's restrooms and other spaces, you're right. For the good of women

All trannies must use the men's restrooms and other spaces.

 

[deviake]

All trannies must use the men's restrooms and other spaces.

But then you're going to have both sexes using one restroom! Why do you hate women?

 

[Hdfi]

But then you're going to have both sexes using one restroom! Why do you hate women?

Your lack of common sense is disturbing. Trannies of all kinds should use men's spaces for public safety reasons.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I’m only concerned with how to deal with the cases that don’t fit into a simple definition of 2 sexes (intersex).

They fit perfectly in the simple definition using the simple word "anomaly".

Having a policy that includes intersex people does not translate to believing people’s feelings defining their sex.

What public policy doesn't include intersex people?

 

[deviake]

Your lack of common sense is disturbing. Trannies of all kinds should use men's spaces for public safety reasons.

I can't believe you want women to use men's restrooms

 

[Hdfi]

I can't believe you want women to use men's restrooms

Trannies as a whole. This way we keep the trashy autogynephiliacs away from women's spaces.

 

[Soggust]

They fit perfectly in the simple definition using the simple word "anomaly".

What public policy doesn't include intersex people?

any public policy that relies on a binary model and doesn’t address “anomolies” right?

You’re creating a third category of people (anomalies) but not telling us how to sort them into the mandated binary.

 

[AbominableJoman]

Trans believers are the flat earthers of biology

 

[Fox by the Sea]

any public policy that relies on a binary model and doesn’t address “anomolies” right?

You’re creating a third category of people (anomalies) but not telling us how to sort them into the mandated binary.

They're not a third category. They're part of the male female binary, just a component that is developmentally anomalous. In the same way we don't adjust everything in society because there are people born with three legs there is no reason to ultra legislate in this case. Quite simple.

 

[Soggust]

They're not a third category. They're part of the male female binary, just a component that is developmentally anomalous. In the same way we don't adjust everything in society because there are people born with three legs there is no reason to ultra legislate in this case. Quite simple.

I’m not arguing they are a third gender I’m asking how to sort them.

You’re telling me “just call them anomolies and move on” which is not addressing the question of which category a specific one falls into.

And it’s clearly not simple because everyone I ask has a different answer. Some argue going by chromes, others by sex assigned at birth and others have suggested intersex people can simply decide for themselves (still NOT trans).

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I’m not arguing they are a third gender I’m asking how to sort them.

You’re telling me “just call them anomolies and move on” which is not addressing the question of which category a specific one falls into.

Science already answered this question a long time ago.

And it’s clearly not simple because everyone I ask has a different answer.

This has no bearing on the correct scientific understanding on the matter.

Some argue going by chromes, others by sex assigned at birth and others have suggested intersex people can simply decide for themselves (still NOT trans).

Chromes? I assume you mean chromosomes. And all this "people argue" doesn't mean much. People also argue the earth is flat.

 

[Soggust]

Science already answered this question a long time ago.

Perfect! So why not just educate me?

The best answer I've heard is gametes size, but there are exceptions there when people can't produce gametes or extreme examples where someone might produce both sizes.

So, what's the hard and fast rule that sorts all intersex people into the binary that science figured out forever ago?

Chromes? I assume you mean chromosomes.

Are you trying to correct me for shorthanding this lol?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Perfect! So why not just educate me?

The best answer I've heard is gametes size, but there are exceptions there when people can't produce gametes or extreme examples where someone might produce both sizes.

So, what's the hard and fast rule that sorts all intersex people into the binary that science figured out forever ago?

That they're an anomaly of the male/female binary and they don't require special treatment.

Are you trying to correct me for shorthanding this lol?

Y.

 

[Soggust]

That they're an anomaly of the male/female binary and they don't require special treatment.

That doesn't tell us which sport they can play though right?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

That doesn't tell us which sport they can play though right?

That's part of the rules application at the level of the sports authorities. They decide permitted hormonal levels upon consultation with the specialized bodies that put forward the limits.

 

[oldshadow]

So you are fine with someone who physically looks like a man but has a vagina to go into female bathrooms ? Gotcha

Sure but if they are a biological man and try that shit it's a felony. They serve time in a male prison and go on the sex offender list for the rest of their life.

See we can come to agreement.

 

[oldshadow]

You've convinced me. These ladies need to start using the women's restrooms and other spaces, you're right. For the good of women

If they have a pussy then they are just ugly women that have fucked themselves up.

If they have had a full change operation then they can switch to the male areas.

Not even sure how they do that with women.

 

[oldshadow]

You've convinced me. These ladies need to start using the women's restrooms and other spaces, you're right. For the good of women

This is a biological woman not a trans. Should she be forced to use the men's bathroom. No she should not. Not because she chooses but because its not where she belongs.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Some do actually. Just ask @DoctorTaco our resident vaginoplasty expert

Aw shucks man, don’t sell yourself short! I trolled you into giving a whole researched dissertation on the subject. You’re pretty well read now too!