Experienced Reality based combateer V Pro MMA fighter on the street

[Dessyboy]

Seriously

Two men, same physical attributes (weight, age, muscle mass, coordination , speed etc), one trained in reality based combat (Senshido, Sammy Franco, lee morrison etc) for 10 years V a pro fighter who has trained MMA for competition for 10 years

On the street, but starting point is both fighters in a squared up position, no sneak attacks but otherwise genuine no rules. Both totally unarmed

Who gets judged by 12 ? and who gets carried by 6 ?

 

[Paradigm]

 

[Little Dong]

navy seal wrecks both

 

[Cross_Trainer]

navy seal wrecks both

I like the satirical subtlety here.

 

[Frode Falch]

The trained fighter still have done more sparring against other fighters.

 

[babycart]

If MMA guy already competed in the high levels for a few years, my bet's on MMA guy. Nothing changes (and hones) a man better than fighting somebody who will gain concrete benefits due to your demise.

 

[ironkhan57]

The mma fighter whose been training for 10 years. Unless the reality based combatant has had more then that military training, then my money is on the mma fighter.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

navy seal wrecks both

so does a grey one.

especially when the fight goes into ''deep water''

 

[Hotora86]

Didn't we have Krav Maga, combatives etc. guys in early MMA years when almost everything was legal? How did they do? One example:

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/moti-horenstein

In the end it's all about the practitioner, not the art. A shitty MMA guy would lose to a great Krav Maga guy.

 

[dudeguyman]

Seriously

Two men, same physical attributes (weight, age, muscle mass, coordination , speed etc), one trained in reality based combat (Senshido, Sammy Franco, lee morrison etc) for 10 years V a pro fighter who has trained MMA for competition for 10 years

On the street, but starting point is both fighters in a squared up position, no sneak attacks but otherwise genuine no rules. Both totally unarmed

Who gets judged by 12 ? and who gets carried by 6 ?

Depends on something you haven't specified, the number of fights either one has been in.

 

[ironkhan57]

Depends on something you haven't specified, the number of fights either one has been in.

Well I'm guessing 10 years of being a pro you got to have at least 17 fights, I don't know what he means by "experienced reality based combateer" but I'm just assuming he means a military or some paramilitary or something.

 

[AndyMaBobs]

Truth be told I'm not really convinced that experienced veterans will beat an MMA fighter in a hand to hand fight. I knew a guy who was a royal marine and he himself admitted if he was ever in an MMA gym or BJJ gym, he got handled - and those were casuals. I think the level of hand to hand combat in the military is greatly over exaggerated. So I don't have much faith in 'reality based' martial arts.

 

[William Huggins]

If MMA guy already competed in the high levels for a few years, my bet's on MMA guy. Nothing changes (and hones) a man better than fighting somebody who will gain concrete benefits due to your demise.

Well, one of them is going to gain benefits from concrete.........

 

[j123]

If the pro mma fighter is fighting a Sherdogger, he's fucked.

 

[ironkhan57]

Truth be told I'm not really convinced that experienced veterans will beat an MMA fighter in a hand to hand fight. I knew a guy who was a royal marine and he himself admitted if he was ever in an MMA gym or BJJ gym, he got handled - and those were casuals. I think the level of hand to hand combat in the military is greatly over exaggerated. So I don't have much faith in 'reality based' martial arts.

I bet a state trooper can beat a marine in a fight, aparently in new jersey I don't know about everywhere else, state troopers are suppose to have a number a fights in boxing and mma before completing state trooper academy (that is according to a 54 year old co worker of mine who boxed with state troopers back in the day and said they needed to have some fights under their belts.

 

[William Huggins]

If the pro mma fighter is fighting a Sherdogger, he's fucked.

Unless that Pro is Ronda...........then it's 50/50.....

 

[ironkhan57]

Unless that Pro is Ronda...........then it's 50/50.....

Nah it's 20/80 in favor of the sherdogger, Ronda is washed up and I watched a video of pro female mma champion named Michelle waterston who couldn't even hit a guy who was not even as experienced as her.

 

[William Huggins]

Nah it's 20/80 in favor of the sherdogger, Ronda is washed up and I watched a video of pro female mma champion named Michelle waterston who couldn't even hit a guy who was not even as experienced as her.

Get back to your Mai Tai training..............Ronda teh Roidz

 

[ironkhan57]

Get back to your Mai Tai training..............Ronda teh Roidz

Excuse me sir, but the first amendment is freedom of speech. Meaning that I can voice my oppinions and what not without going to jail.

 

[William Huggins]

Excuse me sir, but the first amendment is freedom of speech. Meaning that I can voice my oppinions and what not without going to jail.

I don't live in Murica.....