Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Dramovitch, Feb 21, 2016.
Tarec Saffedeine just won.
It's a dogshit team that got its rise to fame because of the most boring and underwhelming champ in UFC history, GSP.
I'd have to look it up but didn't basically everyone you listed come off a win into their last fight? If you are going to judge a camp every fight you gotta be consistent no?
Olivier Aubin-Mercier (Carlos Diego Ferreira is pretty good)
Randa Markos lost (Karolina Kowalciawicz top 5)
Duffy lost (Dustin Poierier is really good)
Nordine Taleb has a chance at beating Erick Silva, reaching a bit imo
also, cant wait to see Rory back
Sage's body has been a distraction. Too sweet.
wonderboy ISNT from tristar
he has trained there but isnt from there
with Robbie Lawler?
You high bro?
and 5th round?
What do you want him to do? some kind of Clay Guida run away for a full round? not possible, he wasn't getting no air, take it from big john.
right, that is why gsp trained at renzo's, canadian olympic wrestling team, freddie roach's, phil nurse's, and did camps/coached in cage by greg jackson???????
Firas is overrated as a coach. Doesn't pay much attention to his fighters, sometimes seems like he doesn't really care about the gym.
Nova União also comes to mind as a Camp that has been on a steep decline...
I did not think Barão would make it back anywhere near the title, I cannot help but to think the same for Aldo... and let's not even talk about JDS.
In my opinion the Duffee fight was the worst, because he lost due to having circa 1995 level takedown defense. I absolutely do not understand why gifted strikers like him to not follow the Aldo/Liddell example. Although I think the issue is partly due to Duffee believing in his jujitsu a bit too much. But again, it's not 1995 anymore and so if your name isn't Charles Oliveira you should stay off your back at all costs.
You are the exact person my Sig pokes fun at.
I call them fairweather fans.
All of which worked closely with Firas and tristar.
You haven't seen much of mma have you. "you high bro" impeccable argument
You're the one with the ganja rapper name.
astounding argumentative ability you possess. my rule is I dont talk to newbies who haven't been here at least 3 months, and I just saw your join-date, so- catch ya in about a week.
Yea... I don't understand how Tristar has this reputation of a great gym/camp. GSP is great but he was kind of a semi product of Jackson's MMA and many other great coaches/trainers GSP sought out to learn from.
Rory Macdonald is probably the best fighter to come out of Tristar, a top 5 WW. But there are many other camps who are producing champions as well as multiple top contenders, so what makes Tristar better? Outside of Rory Mac, what top fighter has Tristar produced?
Tristar isn't a bad camp, but it's not as great as it's hyped to be either. That's why Zahabi has to resort to having his fighters point fight and game the judges to win decisions. He's not a good enough coach to have them do anything else and win consistently. The only great fighter Tristar ever produced was GSP, and even then I'm not sure how much his other coaches had to do with that. Tristar probably deserves a lot of credit with him though since GSP was with them for a long time and he's done fantastic. Every other fighter they've had that's been really good was already that way before coming to Tristar. Rory, Florian, Torres...they were all pretty much fully developed by some other coaches before they went to Tristar. All Tristar really did to them was increase their focus on fighting for points. Still, the fact that they went to Tristar certainly says something positive about the coaching there and how it's perceived by fighters, but even fighters can get caught up in the hype and the fact that the WW GOAT was there to train with probably had a lot to do with that. I'm not really a fan of Jackson's but I do think a lot of the praise he receives as far as developing fighters is much more deserved.
This is the gold star attitude I like
In the fight game you either win or loose and it says nothing about your quality as a fighter because a real fighter, who challenges himself, wins and looses.
It is a matter of how you loose and how you reflect your failures (yes also a "win" can be seen as a failure"). Rory achieved more in his loss than most fighters in the UFC are able to in a win.
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