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Some people won't be satisfied until someone is literally killed.
My man watch the replay and see the guy's face that is a man that called it and wants out, it's right there so clear I recognized before it even stopped.
Wow, maybe you should get a ref license then!
TJ loved the stop over Cody. Now he's pissed Henry TJ'd TJ.
You just got smoked by a dude that fights 10lbs lower than you.
Nobody fights down as champ. He did and got trashed.
YupYep
Then when the opposite happens they want the ref's head on a stick and bitch about how incompetent the ref is.
Oh yeah and dana does that as well. So if the head of the biggest mma org is a fucking inconsistent man-child can you expect anything less from the majority of fans.
FACTMost people who claim it was early keep saying “he wasn’t out” as if you have to be completely out for it to be stopped. He was clearly on queer street and at the time of the stoppage was sitting on his ass and getting beat up. Only after the stoppage did he half ass reach an arm towards Cejudo in what people claim is a single leg attempt. People like to point to comebacks, but those are the outliers, usually the guy would just continue to get his head caved in.
The referee made the right call, you’re seeing a guy flop around taking multiple shots he’s not even attempted to defend and getting knocked down multiple times. Half assedly reaching an arm towards you opponent is not intelligent defence. Not to mention he only does this “single attempt” after the fight is stopped and Henry is already walking away. Then TJ does the stanky leg as soon as he gets up. Clear cut stoppage, don’t see how this even being debated.
you do realize those gif's only prove why it was an early stoppage right?
TJ was never out. Ref needs to be suspended/fired.
ExactlyYou do know a fighter doesn't have to be "out" for a TKO stoppage, right?
You do know that if you panic each time you see a fighter get rocked, you have no business being a ref, right?You do know a fighter doesn't have to be "out" for a TKO stoppage, right?
This. Watching replays I think it could have gone longer but I understand why the ref called it when he didLive it was a fair stoppage
Sure when you watch a slowed down gif 50 times you can more accurately determine whether it was fair or not
Umm, you don't have to go limp or unconscious. If the fighter goes limp or unconscious from follow-up shots, then it's a late stoppage.People forget the most basic rules for this shit. As long as the fighter is intelligently defending himself, you don't stop the fight. Of course he's going to fall down when he's trying to stand up when Cejudo throws his weight on him to keep him down while still punching him. At no point does TJ go limp, lose consciousness, or stop trying to find a way out of having Cejudo rabbit punching him and pushing him around. ANd as soon as the fight ends TJ stands up.
Shit stoppage, snowflakes watching this sport are ruining it. I'd agree if at any point in there TJ goes totally limp on a knock down even for a brief couple seconds and ends up getting woke up by a punch, but he doesn't even get flash KO'd.
Again, shit stoppage, and I'm not a fan of TJ or any of his bitching, but I can respect that a guy that literally starved himself to go down and probably did one of the craziest cuts a fighter has had to do, only to have it end in a quick scramble that caused a trigger happy nervous ref to jump the gun.
Would TJ have come back and win? Who knows, I don't think so, but let him fight until he shows a sign of incoherence which is part of the basic freakin rule set to begin with.
If TJ took 5 or 10 more shots and went LIMP, fans would be outraged and calling it a late stoppage
Sounds like you are misunderstanding the rules big time. The ref can stop the fight any time when he deems the fighter is no longer INTELLIGENTLY defending himself.
Exactly.Actually, far too many fans think a fight should only get stopped when a guy goes limp. People have no good understanding of just how dangerous and detrimental to your health it is to be knocked out cold. It's something that happens in the fight game... but if the ref can stop it from happening unnecessarily, that's his job.
Unfortunately, if you're of the mindset that the ref's only job is to protect a fighter AFTER he's been knocked out and never to protect a fighter from BEING knocked out, you're going to bitch about a lot of stoppages... which a lot of sherdoggers do.
Rule isn't fight until someone is out, it's about whether or not you are intelligently defending yourself. TJ was getting wailed on and not defending himself intelligently at all.you do realize those gif's only prove why it was an early stoppage right?
TJ was never out. Ref needs to be suspended/fired.
In big fights, the good refs give the fighters, especially champions, more time to recover from bad spots and respond