Every close round in effective striking should go to Lineker. That´s because...

[Kung Fu bb]

For those saying that Dodson won using the rules of the game, I disagree, and here´s why.

The 3 most important criteria of judging that played part in the fight are effective striking, octagon control and agression, because there was basically no grappling.

In the effective striking criterium the fight was indeed pretty close, both guys landed hard throughout the 5 rounds, both guys had their moments and could've put the other out at some point.... so if the only criterium in the fight was effective striking you could make an argument that Dodson won, I have no problem with that, after all it was very close in terms of effective striking.

But when you weigh in Lineker´s advantage in the octagon control and aggression department, his advantage was ridiculous in all the rounds and it should outweigh whatever small advantage Dodson might´ve had in any rounds in the effective striking criterium.

What do you guys think?

 

[Deleted member 510671]

Agreed. There was no controversy here.

 

[blaseblah]

The 3 most important criteria of judging that played part in the fight are effective striking, octagon control and agression

Effective striking is weighed over everything else according to the rules.

 

[Kung Fu bb]

Effective striking is weighed over everything else according to the rules.

It´s nº 1, but the reason there are other criteria is exactly because effective striking is not absolute, so there are nº 2, nº 3, and so on.... that´s pretty obvious.

 

[Deleted member 510671]

Effective striking is weighed over everything else according to the rules.

Dodson's "effective" striking was not effective enough to back Lineker up at any point during the fight. Dodson's constant backpedaling is blatant proof that he wanted nothing of Lineker's punches.

Dodson could at the very best claim that effective striking was even. And even then he clearly lost on the two other parameters.

 

[blaseblah]

It´s nº 1, but the reason there are other criteria is exactly because effective striking is not absolute, so there are nº 2, nº 3, and so on.... that´s pretty obvious.

The other criteria exists because sometimes the effective striking is even and you need to judge by other factors.

 

[blaseblah]

Dodson's "effective" striking was not effective enough to back Lineker up at any point during the fight. Dodson's constant backpedaling is blatant proof that he wanted nothing of Lineker's punches.

Dodson could at the very best claim that effective striking was even. And even then he clearly lost on the two other parameters.

The same could be said for most of Leonard Garcia's fights, he still gets outstruck and deserves to lose, regardless of the robberies.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Octagon control is a bullshit criteria.

 

[Kung Fu bb]

The other criteria exists because sometimes the effective striking is even and you need to judge by other factors.

http://www.ufc.com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations

Here´s the site, you obviously don´t know how it works.

 

[DannyNL]

No controversy. John Dodson did not land enough effective blows to take rounds 2, 3 or 4. Too much moving, not enough sticking.

Lineker stalked him down and did a lot of good work to the body.

 

[Kung Fu bb]

The same could be said for most of Leonard Garcia's fights, he still gets outstruck and deserves to lose, regardless of the robberies.

Comparing Garcia´s fights were he gets destroyed and outstruck by a huge difference to this close fight is just outrageous.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Dodson's "effective" striking was not effective enough to back Lineker up at any point during the fight. Dodson's constant backpedaling is blatant proof that he wanted nothing of Lineker's punches.

Dodson could at the very best claim that effective striking was even. And even then he clearly lost on the two other parameters.

He back peddled because it's near suiciside to stand in the pocket and trade with Lineker.

I'm a just bleed fan at heart and would have loved to of seen Dodson stand his ground and bang, but you and I know it's not the smart thing to do against Lineker

imo Dodson had the more affective striking and accuracy where as Lineker was busier and the aggressor with dominant octagon controll

 

[blaseblah]

http://www.ufc.com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations

Here´s the site, you obviously don´t know how it works.

Congrats, you learned how to reach the UFC website. Now learn to read.

 

[Kung Fu bb]

Congrats, you learned how to reach the UFC website. Now learn to read.

"Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and effective aggressiveness and defense"

I read and you exposed yourself as truly a casual. Any other stupid comment?

 

[blaseblah]

Comparing Garcia´s fights were he gets destroyed and outstruck by a huge difference to this close fight is just outrageous.

This idea you have that walking forward and eating punches should be rewarded by points is utterly retarded. There exists no martial art that rewards such behavior. Your opinion likely is influenced by your consumption of popular movies and a misguided idea of "machismo." Which I don't mind you applying to your own behavior, but keep that crap away from my beloved sport.

 

[blaseblah]

"Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and effective aggressiveness and defense"

I read and you exposed yourself as truly a casual. Any other stupid comment?

Ffs learn to read already. The section you underlined goes against your own post.

 

[Kung Fu bb]

This idea you have that walking forward and eating punches should be rewarded by points is utterly retarded. There exists no martial art that rewards such behavior. Your opinion likely is influenced by your consumption of popular movies and a misguided perception of "machismo." Which I don't mind you applying to your own behavior, but keep that crap away from my beloved sport.

"hey mom, I´m trolling on the internet".... please man, you don´t even know how judging works...

don´t you have homework to do?

 

[blaseblah]

"hey mom, I´m trolling on the internet".... please man, you don´t even know how judging works...

don´t you have homework to do?

I'm older than you, kid.

 

[Kung Fu bb]

Ffs learn to read already. The section you underlined goes against your own post.

it says "in the ORDER".... are you fking retard? It doesn´t say, "only effective striking will be considered".... dude, STFU and GTFO.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

In other words, TJ was robbed.