Every #1 Lightweight in the world per year (According to fight matrix)

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

BJ had all but left the division while Gomi was murking the number 1's and 2's of his division back to back.
His pride lightweight strap run is still one of the best to this date.

That's right. Today new fans are used to the "officially unofficial" UFC Rankings, which allow DC to be ranked at both LHW and HW, and Conor to stay in for years (although cuts Nate Diaz during contract negotiations, if Dana says so). These new fans need to understand that it wasn't always so straightforward.

Back in the day, every list had it's own criteria. Some dropped a fighter after 1 year of activity, some after 2, some never. Some lists allowed fighters to be ranked in 2 divisions, some did not.

Each list and criteria had merit. So if a top 10 list drops BJ from LW after he decided to fight Hughes at 170 and Lyoto at HW, that's pretty easy to understand (even if other lists did it a different way).

 

[Chomsky Honk]

BJ Penn killed Gomi in 03'

Yet Gomi was the best through all those years right?

Fuck outta here.

Would you prefer Hansen and Shaolin get more credit than Gomi, or is this more of a pro-BJ post? Cause BJ left the division for years. Somebody had to take over.

 

[JCS_FM]

Great fucking post

For the record, "in a vacuum" and on paper.. I think Gomi is #1 All-Time. However, he WAS indeed in a vacuum... almost entirely beating a local population in Japan. But he did it consistently for quite a long period of time.

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

For the record, "in a vacuum" and on paper.. I think Gomi is #1 All-Time. However, he WAS indeed in a vacuum... almost entirely beating a local population in Japan. But he did it consistently for quite a long period of time.

Oh I respectfully disagree.

When UFC dumped LW, Yves came to Bushido and lost a close one to Hansen. No shame there, but it does show that Pride and Bushido had the best LW's in the world.

Strikeforce had some guys, but WEC had a long way to go before they got their top dogs. In 2005, Gabe Rudiger was the WEC Champion.

So my point is that from 2003-2006, Gomi dominated the division that was the best in the world. Saying "but he didn't beat the best guys in SF" is like saying Fedor was a paper champ because he didn't beat the best UFC HW's from from 2003-2006....

 

[Substance Abuse]

For the record, "in a vacuum" and on paper.. I think Gomi is #1 All-Time. However, he WAS indeed in a vacuum... almost entirely beating a local population in Japan. But he did it consistently for quite a long period of time.

Nah.

 

[KID Yamamoto]

For the record, "in a vacuum" and on paper.. I think Gomi is #1 All-Time. However, he WAS indeed in a vacuum... almost entirely beating a local population in Japan. But he did it consistently for quite a long period of time.

Yeah such a vacum that he knocked out the last UFC LW champ who defeated Penn and Was ranked top 3 in both LW and FW at time.

Such a vacum.

 

[KID Yamamoto]

Oh I respectfully disagree.

When UFC dumped LW, Yves came to Bushido and lost a close one to Hansen. No shame there, but it does show that Pride and Bushido had the best LW's in the world.

Strikeforce had some guys, but WEC had a long way to go before they got their top dogs. In 2005, Gabe Rudiger was the WEC Champion.

So my point is that from 2003-2006, Gomi dominated the division that was the best in the world. Saying "but he didn't beat the best guys in SF" is like saying Fedor was a paper champ because he didn't beat the best UFC HW's from from 2003-2006....

Lets not forget Kawajiri who gomi stopped round 1 would go on to beat the piss out of Josh Thompson and be a consistent number 2 in Japanese orgs. This Josh Thompson fought Gilbert to a split dec he arguably won and KO'd Diaz (number 4 LW in the UFC) in round 2.

Also Mitsuhiro Ishida would take Gilbert Melendez's undefeated record as he was the strikeforce LW champ. This came a year after Gomi murked him

Gomi beat some of the best LW's in the world who were competitive years after losing to him.

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

Well cmon man, if you're going to go adding gifs, I gotta add my favorite too



Not because it adds anything to an argument, but just because...

 

[markys00]

Eddie won and lost his championship in 2016. I feel like TS fucked up.

no, he didnt

 

[Taric]

no, he didnt

Alvarez beat RDA July 7, 2016 and he lost to Conor November 12, 2016. I would double check your google machine.

 

[markys00]

Alvarez beat RDA July 7, 2016 and he lost to Conor November 12, 2016. I would double check your google machine.

its right. i dont really agree with the way they got there, but its correct. u can check urself, it takes all of 5 minutes
http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=113&Division=5

http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=114&Division=5

http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=115&Division=5

http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=116&Division=5

those are all 4 issues: connor, eddie, eddie, porier were respective #1's. eddie was #1 in 2 issues prior to his loss in 2018. he had a top win in gaethje, a NC with porieir, and only a loss to the #1. before that he beat the champ RDA, top 5ish pettis, top 5ish gil melendez

unfortunately khabib had no top 5s until barboza? having a bunch of unranked wins doesnt do as much as ranked wins (which makes sense)... actually khabib never made number 1 in 2018

 

[Maverick Original]

Was a great time to be a fan back then. Gomi was amazing at his peak.

 

[Taric]

its right. i dont really agree with the way they got there, but its correct. u can check urself, it takes all of 5 minutes
http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=113&Division=5

http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=114&Division=5

http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=115&Division=5

http://www.fightmatrix.com/historic...ted-historical-rankings/?Issue=116&Division=5

those are all 4 issues: connor, eddie, eddie, porier were respective #1's. eddie was #1 in 2 issues prior to his loss in 2018. he had a top win in gaethje, a NC with porieir, and only a loss to the #1. before that he beat the champ RDA, top 5ish pettis, top 5ish gil melendez

unfortunately khabib had no top 5s until barboza? having a bunch of unranked wins doesnt do as much as ranked wins (which makes sense)... actually khabib never made number 1 in 2018

i misunderstood what you were "no he didnt"ing.

 

[markys00]

i misunderstood what you "no he didnt"ing.

ah all good

 

[old school 2]

He got nullified, out struck and outgrappled by gleison tibau, who couldn't last 5 minutes with tony. Nice try though.

Maybe to a casual, but the judges (the only people’s opinion that counts) Khabib won every round just like Tony lost every round officially to MJ that Khabib subbed...so, nice try.

 

[chinarice]

Maybe to a casual, but the judges (the only people’s opinion that counts) Khabib won every round just like Tony lost every round officially to MJ that Khabib subbed...so, nice try.

I never made a factually incorrect statement in saying Tony didn't lose to MJ. You made a factually incorrect statement about Khabib dominating everyone he faced. I cited a fight in which he clearly didn't dominate. Try to keep up.

 

[old school 2]

I never made a factually incorrect statement in saying Tony didn't lose to MJ. You made a factually incorrect statement about Khabib dominating everyone he faced. I cited a fight in which he clearly didn't dominate. Try to keep up.

The fact that he won every round is domination .