Ever tell someone to hold back?

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by no fat chicks, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. no fat chicks

    no fat chicks Worlds greatest poster

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    7,120
    Likes Received:
    4,586
    Location:
    TBC
    First time back at my gym in a while
    And i get paired up with a dude whose got pretty extensive ammy record. It's light sparring and i throw some wimpy 1 2s and leg kicks.

    Out of know where he whips a body kick at me. Then he keeps trying to hit me with super hard hooks. All while wearing mma gloves mind you. Luckily the timer wasn't set so i got to just keep going full diaz on him and he actually quit from exhaustion and left class. . . I got lucky in the sense that he was smaller and less skilled. Had he been bigger and more experienced would I be in the right in telling him to chill?
     
    shincheckin and Reyesnuthugr like this.
  2. Jack Stevonovich

    Jack Stevonovich Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2018
    Messages:
    2,507
    Likes Received:
    2,908
    yes, you don't have to go all out sparring every time.
     
  3. Sakurabaism

    Sakurabaism Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2019
    Messages:
    877
    Likes Received:
    2,698
    Location:
    Haibei Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture
  4. no fat chicks

    no fat chicks Worlds greatest poster

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    7,120
    Likes Received:
    4,586
    Location:
    TBC
    lol it was pretty absurd, I had a few moments where I made clear I could have landed hard on him and held back. What does he do? Continues to load up on huge counter hooks and try and take my head off. . . I def dont want to give some dude at the same gym as me CTE or get into a fire fight and risk getting sparked myself.
     
  5. StopDucking

    StopDucking Ronda Rousey hater

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    2,363
    Likes Received:
    3,895
    Different people have different views on what constitutes light sparring. Most (not all) of the time, communication is key. Just tell him to go lighter. If he doesn't listen, hit him with a couple hard shots and tell him to tone it down again. If it still doesn't work, just walk away. Don't stay in there more than 3 min with a meathead.
     
    aerius, Reyesnuthugr and JabToucher like this.
  6. shincheckin

    shincheckin Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2012
    Messages:
    4,199
    Likes Received:
    3,465
    9 out of 10 people are this way unfortunately. I was taught to have a nice guy attitude in scenarios like this. Regardless of skill level, tell them to turn it down, if they dont you can then make the decision to either ask them again, stop sparring with them, or fight them.

    So long story short, yes
     
    ironkhan57 and aerius like this.
  7. Noodles03

    Noodles03 Green Belt

    Joined:
    May 16, 2013
    Messages:
    974
    Likes Received:
    808
    Location:
    Southern California
    I normally don’t tell people to hold back. However I have notice that I improved the most by implementing relatively slow/ light sparring. Now I’m a big believer in putting in high volume of training with light intensity.
     
  8. Centaur

    Centaur Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2004
    Messages:
    6,664
    Likes Received:
    122
    Location:
    On the Excalibur.
    Yep, all the time. I don't have anything to prove, and I don't/can't risk getting big injuries, especially concussions. I say right at the start with new partners - "let's keep it chill. If you want to go hard, find someone else."
    I'm in my 40's so keep that in mind, too.
     
    Sano and shincheckin like this.
  9. BADBOYKILLA

    BADBOYKILLA Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2008
    Messages:
    746
    Likes Received:
    789
    Location:
    Canada
    Not everyone would be as cool as you about that but I respect it , me personally If we arnt on the same page about how we are going to spar I'm only going to take 2 or 3 shots like that and then I'm throwing speed and counter power back
     
  10. ironkhan57

    ironkhan57 Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 6, 2015
    Messages:
    3,199
    Likes Received:
    1,093
    Location:
    short hills nj
    When i'm not feeling it. I tell them to go light. When i am, i just go with da flow.
     
  11. j123

    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2013
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    14,562
    Location:
    Let me bang mang
    Yeah communication is key. Its seen as a bitch move to "talk", but its gets things through, if after requesting they drop heat 2x, I just bang with em
     
    ironkhan57 likes this.
  12. Oliver Rupcic

    Oliver Rupcic Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2019
    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    92
    Of course . You can agree to anything it's your brain health.
     
  13. Oliver Rupcic

    Oliver Rupcic Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2019
    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    92
    Are you someone who does sparring ? How did just bang work out for you ?
     
  14. j123

    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2013
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    14,562
    Location:
    Let me bang mang
    It works well, even solves world hunger
     
    Oliver Rupcic likes this.
  15. spacetime

    spacetime Black Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2014
    Messages:
    6,579
    Likes Received:
    1,274
    Yes. They rarely listen though.
     
  16. Oliver Rupcic

    Oliver Rupcic Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2019
    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    92

    I like to hear that
     
  17. Ian Coe

    Ian Coe Silver Belt Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    May 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,564
    Likes Received:
    104
    Location:
    UK
    I used to be the guy they got to spar the thugs/bullys. I seemed to be alright in dealing with them without injuring them (85kg, pretty fit, alright technically if I do say so myself).

    Regardless my sparring style used to be go light and learn.
    If people get tagged and heat starts to rise I would remind them you can have 100% intention but like 10% power.
    I would then maybe up the pace and get some light tags in and then take control and slow them back down once they got the hint.

    2 strikes would be if they upped it. At that point I would increase the power to maybe 50%. I would never hit the head hard, but maybe body and legs.

    3 strikes- only happened 2-3 times and by that point a lot of the fight is gone from people once their legs aren't working so well.

    If they are competent, a few words will calm them down once they realise what they are doing.

    Some people just have bad days though.

    And some people are cunts.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.